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Bindings For Watea 94?

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks for feedback on the skis. I think I'm going to get the 178 cm. Wateas. Would love to get some advice on bindings... I'm 51, 6' 0", 170 lbs.
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Originally Posted by JHSki View Post
Thanks for feedback on the skis. I think I'm going to get the 178 cm. Wateas. Would love to get some advice on bindings... I'm 51, 6' 0", 170 lbs.

jester
or if you want to take short climbing trips, dukes

they both come with 3 differently sized brakes: you have to specify the width
post #3 of 11
If you want easy fitting to any boot size & easy slope-side position adjustment, consider the Fischer or Tyrolia Railflex 12 or 14. a 95mm brake is available;
http://www.levelninesports.com/tyrol...red-p-905.html
http://www.levelninesports.com/tyrol...nge-p-904.html
http://www.levelninesports.com/tyrol...ex-p-1117.html


Fischer X14, these have a 14 DIN & a 93mm brake that will easily bend-to-fit;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ski-bindings-FIS...QQcmdZViewItem

Fischer X17, these have a 6-17 DIN, bomber build & a 115mm brake;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ski-bindings-FIS...QQcmdZViewItem

Look P12 Ti, these have a 12 DIN. Be sure to get the 100mm brake;
http://www.sierrasnowboard.com/2008-...ONLY-33555.asp

If you want the highest performing binding, consider Look PX 15 FS WB. 8-15 DIN, bomber build & 100mm brake;
http://www.sierrasnowboard.com/2008-...ONLY-33551.asp
post #4 of 11
I put Look PX12's on mine, and am very happy with them. Note: if you put Fischer's (and maybe Tyrolia's?) on them, you'll double the warranty according to what i was told. I went with the Look's 'cause i got a killer deal on SAC.
post #5 of 11
I think Level Nine has some great deals on P12's and PX12s right now:

http://www.levelninesports.com/ski-g...s-c-23_34.html
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Do you guys have a point of view on the Railflex with plate vs. no plate approach? In this case, given the (very helpful recommendations), it would be Tyrolia 12 or 14 vs. Fischer x14 and/or Look Px 12.
post #7 of 11
I put a pair of Railflex 14 on my Watea 101. I plan to use the positioning feature to determine the ideal position on the ski. So far the factory position is very good and might not need alteration.

I also purchased the Look P15, I might drop this on at some point. I do think that the no plate approach does offers some performance improvement. Some loss of snow feel comes with the Railflex design, but its very minor IMO.

Marker Jester users report a significant performance improvement, these are engineered for wide skis. I have not tried them yet. Avoid the basic Look P12 "composite" binding. Its safe to use but almost all plastic. The "ti" is much more rigid.

Michael
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post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
Question on ideal brake width. If skis are let's say 95 mm in the waist, how wide do you want your brakes? 5 mm more on each side? 3 mm? What would be too wide? Thanks!
post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 
Down to two choices... decided against the Railflex approach. So, Fischer X14 (wide) or Salomon Z12 ti. Any point of view on pros/cons? Thanks!
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Down to two choices... decided against the Railflex approach. So, Fischer X14 (wide) or Salomon Z12 ti. Any point of view on pros/cons? Thanks!
I believe that mounting the Fischer will double your warranty on Fischer skis. And I don't like the Salomon Z series' toe wings. And I'm guessing that the Fischers are significantly cheaper. So for me, the Fischers would be a no-brainer unless there's no shop with a Tyrolia/Fischer jig within a hundred miles.

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Question on ideal brake width. If skis are let's say 95 mm in the waist, how wide do you want your brakes? 5 mm more on each side? 3 mm? What would be too wide? Thanks!
It's not necessarily predictable. Measurements of brakes are inconsistent and imprecise, although in my experience, manufacturers typically underestimate the width. And no one places the brake at the narrowest point. The upshot is that you buy the one that makes sense, and if you need to, you tweak it a smidge.

As for what is too wide... when we originally got my wife's 95mm-wide Phat Luvs mounted, we had 125mm brakes. They were too wide for her taste, because they looked funny and didn't hold the skis together on her shoulder well. She didn't complain about drag in soft snow, but that would've been less than ideal too. Long story short, we traded the 125s for narrower brakes -- 100s, I think.

Mounting Watea 94s with Tyrolia/Fischer bindings, I believe that most people are using 93mm brakes rather than 115s.
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Rossi

I've recently mounted some Rossi axial2 140 ti bindings (same as Look) on my Mantras. I put a few days on them at the end of season, and they seem to be pretty decent. They do have a slight lift (6 mm, I think), but it's barely noticeable and probably aids in hard conditions.

The only thing I don't like about these bindings is that the riser plate is all plastic (I know they're all plastic, it's just that these plates don't seem terribly burly to me), but I don't think it would be an issue unless you were hucking large to less than desirable transition landings (in which case, I'd worry more about your knees than your bindings...) No pre-release issues with these bindings, they're fairly light, and I'm assuming, have a good long life due to the ti springs.
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