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Looking for a ski recommendation

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Longtime lurker, first time poster so please go easy....

I am looking for a ski to use "out west". I am from Ontario, and have purchased a small condo at Big White. I have been Ontario skiing for about 4 years now, (not frequently maybe 5 times a year). I would classify myself as a low level intermediate skier. I skied for a week at Big White earlier this year, took a couple of Blue level lessons and am comfortable on all of the blue "mostly groomed" runs, and enjoy, but not that great on the blue bump runs. I plan to become as good of a skier as I can, as soon as I can My goal would be to spend 50/50 on groomed vs. not groomed, (glades, bowls etc) I have no desire to leap off cliffs. My current skis are 2004 or 2005 Rossignol Zenith Z5's (the not wide body ones). I do have boots, they are a pair of Salomon's, I cant recall the model off hand. They were "professionally" fitted when I bought the skis in 2005.

Other info:
I am 40 years old, 6'1", 200 lbs, in good physical condition (run 5 days a week).

Question #1) What ski's should I be looking at? What type of ski's? Free-ride vs. All Mountain vs. ???? Speaking with ski shops in Collingwood, they were recommending Head Monster 78's (178? length) and XWing Furys (178? length).

Question #2) We are heading out to BW the end of May to check out our place, I was thinking I would like to buy the skis before we go, so they are there when we arrive in the winter. Are ski's typically cheaper in BC vs. Ontario??

Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.
post #2 of 14
Check in with SierraJim or dawgcatching here on Epic. Tons of info on ski selection. My .02 would be the Fisher AMC73 170 or 176. Very forgiving, a great learning ski, will carve or skarve with ease, This ski will help you get started in bumps without punishing bad technique. There are great buys on this ski from our own members here at Epic.

BTW...do you have really good fitting boots? If not, that would be first on my suggestion list.

Oh, and welcome to Epic, great people with great knowledge here, enjoy!!!
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the welcome!! I have learned a ton on this forum already...

I do have boots, Salomon's (can't recall the model) that I bought a few years ago when I got my skis. They are very comfortable...
I plan to have 2 pairs of ski's: my BC skis and my Ontario skis, and just take the boots out west when I go.
post #4 of 14
Second Ragin' Cajun's point: buy good boots first. Work with a bootfitter so that they precisely fit your feet - all feet are different, the parts aren't interchangable, and you have to do a custom fit job.

Then, after getting a good pair of well-fitting boots, spend some time demoing various models. See what you like. Buying skis because somebody else said they're the right one for you is a mug's game. OTOH, trying skis because somebody else said they're the right one is a good idea. Demo demo demo.

If you don't have the patience to demo, the best place to get a good deal is called "Summer" When you're out at Big White in a couple of weeks, nose around the ski shops for last years unsold models and last year's demo skis - you should be able to find a pair for half price or less. You can do the same in Ontario, but you probably won't find nearly as good a selection of wider western-oriented skis.
post #5 of 14
Welcome! Agree about boots. Comfort is key, but so is performance. Check with the bootfitter forum here for expert advice on what you have, whether it's suitable. Skis: for a dedicated out west ski at your size, athleticism, and skill level, the 177 Fury would work, but you might also think about these, al available at good prices right now:

Salomon Guns - Yes, they are fatter than you were thinking about, but they're popular for a reason - amazingly user friendly in tight spaces and bumps, heaven in pow, and decent in chop at reasonable speeds, very nice on groomed, again with the speed proviso. The 180-ish length.

Head Mojo 90's - These are beefier than the Guns, better on groomed and in chop, nearly as grippy as the Outlaws, but still quite suitable on the backside for someone who only puts in a week a year, 07's can be found crazy cheap, 176 would work right now, particularly if you like trees and bumps, while 186 might have more of an upside later, be a bit to handle now. (Head seems allergic to normal increments of length.) If 186, go sign up for lessons right away.

Rossignol B94's, or last year's B4's. Again, very cheap in 07 models, will have that familiar smooth damp light Rossi feel. Not ideal for tight spaces, but loves the wide open spaces and like all Bandits, very nice in crud and bumps. After the Guns, the most forgiving of the four here.

K2 Outlaws - These are a notch above your current level, and the beefiest of the group, so you might want to think about lessons, but they're still relatively forgiving, very smooth, easy to turn, grippiest, best in crud or bad surfaces of the bunch, and will hold up to your size if you like to rip on any surface. Get them on the short side, meaning mid- 170's for you.

Good luck!
post #6 of 14
Why not save a bunch of money and snag one of the many deals available on K2 Public Enemys right now? It a better than decent soft snow all mountain ski and you can get them for right at $200 a lot of places. Don't be afraid of the 179s, they ski short and you're plenty big enough.
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for your suggestions. I think I am going to ski this season on my existing ski's and demo on a regular basis. Of course this will probably change when I get out there in a couple of weeks and start seeing the off season sales...
post #8 of 14
Demos are definitely worthwhile, although Big White's demo selection seemed pretty poor when I was there this winter. The PE is a good choice for BW as it is not too bad in the bumps and it has some float. I'd lean towards something a bit wider but in the same vein - the Dynastar Big Trouble has decent performance in the powder (that's what you want from Big White, right?) and it was more than manageable in the bumps (best bumps at Big White are on Dragon's Tongue, IMO). The BTs were manageable in all areas of the resort (skied just about everything over two days except for the Cliff Chair area, which was closed). When the snow is soft and plentiful, I prefer the Volkl Gotama, but my BTs have been a "go to" ski for many days in the BC Interior over two seasons. SierraJim's store had some great deals on flat BTs. I know that you may have concerns about being a low level intermediate skier, but you will progress quickly with time on the snow. I believe that the combination of my Rossi Zenith Z9s and BTs really boosted my confidence from the level you describe to where I am confident going almost anywhere (although no one will emulate my style!). I have a family member who is a more timid skier and who prefers intermediate terrain and he skis the Line Prophet 90 and PEs - they have had the same confidence boosting effect. The similarity of all of these twins is that they have enough width and oomph to bust through crud and to float on soft snow, and they have enough sidecut to allow easy turning. At the same time, they don't have so much sidecut as to be hooky in deeper or cruddy snow (much easier than your Zeniths will be on anything other than groomed). Beware of really stiff skis at your level of confidence.

And... definitely focus on proper fitting boots with the performance you are looking for. That's priority #1.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Alberto, thanks for your insite. What or Who or Where is SierraJim's? I could not seem to find it on Google. We are heading out to BW in a couple of weeks to check out our new place, do you have any recommendations on ski shops to visit?

I will have to look at what model my boots are, but I do recall they were middle to higher priced in the Salomon line when I bought them. How do I know if they are not the right boot for me? Or is this more of a question for the boot guys?? They are very comfortable, and never seem to give me any issues.
post #10 of 14
SJ is at Sierra Snowboard and Ski. Or just go to one his recent threads about sales and hit the link.
post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
Cool. Thanks!!


Wow, what a great site. I have learned a ton. Thank you for the tip!!
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by skiandrun262 View Post
Alberto, thanks for your insite. What or Who or Where is SierraJim's? I could not seem to find it on Google. We are heading out to BW in a couple of weeks to check out our new place, do you have any recommendations on ski shops to visit?

I will have to look at what model my boots are, but I do recall they were middle to higher priced in the Salomon line when I bought them. How do I know if they are not the right boot for me? Or is this more of a question for the boot guys?? They are very comfortable, and never seem to give me any issues.

Sorry - don't know any of the Kelowna ski shops first hand. I was surprised at the absence of retail on the hill. However, the city is close at hand and there must be some decent shops there. Perhaps someone reading this who lives in either Kelowna or Vernon could help out? Doubt that many places will have any ski gear out in Kelowna right now. Everyone will be getting into the golf-mountain biking-boating scene. My bias is always to support my local shop, but if they don't have what I'm looking for (or are not within a reasonably competitive price), then I will consider buying on line. As long as you have some idea of what you want, you'd be ok. If you are patient, you may be able to demo some stuff over the course of the next season and scoop up some good end of season deals (for what you want, not what others recommend).

As for the boots - if you are not in discomfort and you are not having trouble skiing your Zenith 5s with the boots you have, I wouldn't rush to get new boots. Fit and appropriate performance are critical, but you aren't saying that you're having problems, why worry about it now? Shell fit is the place to start and you will find out lots from reading the Boot Guys' forum on this site (the FAQ section is a starter).

Sorry for a long post... but when you're in Kelowna checking out your place at BW, be sure to hit some wineries (if you're into that) - I personally love the patio and restaurant at Quail's Gate Winery on a sunny day.
post #13 of 14
skiandrun,

Like has been suggested, check out Sierra Jim's stuff at www.sierrasnowboard.com, and see if you can catch Jim to speak to directly ....he might be already on his summer sojourn however ....

You might even be able to get boots there too....their return policies are great....

Tell Jim that you are a retarded Canadian (I'm from Toronto, now in the s.f. bay area), and that might attract his attention right off ..

Good luck! :
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by skiandrun262 View Post
I would classify myself as a low level intermediate skier.
Other info:
I am 40 years old, 6'1", 200 lbs, in good physical condition (run 5 days a week).

Question #1) What ski's should I be looking at? What type of ski's? Free-ride vs. All Mountain vs. ???? Speaking with ski shops in Collingwood, they were recommending Head Monster 78's (178? length) and XWing Furys (178? length).

Question #2) We are heading out to BW the end of May to check out our place, I was thinking I would like to buy the skis before we go, so they are there when we arrive in the winter. Are ski's typically cheaper in BC vs. Ontario??

Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.
At your build, a 178 ski is a good place to start IMO. Frankly, I think you will need at least 2 pairs of skis to enjoy yourself at BW. The recommended skis above will work for you and we all have our favorites for the groomers.
I want to address the off piste / powder portion of the quiver. This site doesn't have a breakdown like this: http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...d.php?t=104129
So do yourself a favor and read all the posts on skis up to say 187, as you will want some longer skis to slay the pow.
If you want just 1 pair, I would suggest 183 Volkl Gotamas. A good all around ski for the conditions you will be skiing as are the 183 Bros, 181 Titan 9s, 180 King Salmons, Elan 888s, etc, there are a bunch of great skis out there. Take your time, do some research, Google different skis and honestly, whatever you buy, just make it your b!tch. Now is a great time to get some deals. Jim has a helpful site at www.sierrasnowboards.com. Look at that, ebay, etc and good luck. Researching equipment is as much fun as using it for me.
Just remember, there are no bad skis, just bad skiers. Have fun shopping and take a few lessons on your new boards.
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