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Rossignol Axial vs SAS Bindings???

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Hey I was wondering if anyone could give me any quick insight into the differences between the Rossignol Axial 140 Binding and the Rossignol SAS2 140? Is it just a name update or is there something different between the Axial bindings and SAS's?

I just bought some new mojo 90's and after having busted 2 pair of Look PX12's I want to get something with a higher din and a little sturdier. Im a big guy (6'5 215) that likes to get some air. Any advice between the two? Thanks!:
post #2 of 14
SAS is just rossi's name for the new "seven artistic sins" line of skis. it's purely the name. no functional difference in bindings. if you don't need vertical toe release (read: if you don't do a lot of park) go buy the px15 from sierrasnowboard.com NOW!
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
thanks for the reply.. Im a little wary of Look bindings now, so I'd rather not go back. For the same price I can get the SAS 120's or for less the Axial Scratch 120's. Thoughts? Will they stand up to the test, or do I need to get something with a metal frame? Thanks
post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by BJNK View Post
thanks for the reply.. Im a little wary of Look bindings now, so I'd rather not go back. For the same price I can get the SAS 120's or for less the Axial Scratch 120's. Thoughts? Will they stand up to the test, or do I need to get something with a metal frame? Thanks
rossignol bindgs ARE look bindings (and so are dynastars). the look px15 that i recommended DOES have a metal housing, which is why i recommended it. of the two that you are looking at, they are basically the same except the scratch is not lifted whereas the SAS version MIGHT be (i am unsure, as those are tecnically next year's bindings). either way, the difference would be very minimal (i believe 6mm). unless one of them is the "ti" version, that would be better than the non-ti version. but for $190 for the look px15, i would just get that. especially for your weight and if you've broken non-metal bindings in the past. be warned. the din starts at 8, but i'm pretty sure that you won't have a problem with that.
post #5 of 14
ok, so after looking at a picture of the SAS binding a little more closely, it does NOT have risers, so in that sense, it will be the same as the scratch binding. but, more importantly, it has a solid AFD rather than the sliding one that they used up until this year. will you notice this at all? almost certainly not. but apparently it might be safer for your knees by one tiny iota. but i'd take that with a grain of salt, b/c if the only difference b/w this year's binding and next year's was the AFD and the color... i'd STILL prioritize color when making my decision (and i'm not saying that i'm a fashion queen...)
post #6 of 14
I was just looking into this myself and from what I can tell, the Rossi SAS2 is the same as the the Look ti JIB, and the Rossi Axial2 is the same as the Look ti Lifter. The difference in the two being that the Look PX14 ti Lifter (and Rossignol Axial2 140 ti?) have a 6mm rise under the toe, and 6.5mm under the heel whereas the Look PX14 ti (and Rossignol SAS2 140 ti?) have a "3mm shock absorber" under the binding.

Anyone know if this sounds right? I assume I'd rather have a 3mm shock absorber than a 6mm lift on my new 183 Bros?
post #7 of 14
jay,

sounds like you've got it
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
I was just looking into this myself and from what I can tell, the Rossi SAS2 is the same as the the Look ti JIB, and the Rossi Axial2 is the same as the Look ti Lifter. The difference in the two being that the Look PX14 ti Lifter (and Rossignol Axial2 140 ti?) have a 6mm rise under the toe, and 6.5mm under the heel whereas the Look PX14 ti jib (and Rossignol SAS2 140 ti?) have a "3mm shock absorber" under the binding.

Anyone know if this sounds right? I assume I'd rather have a 3mm shock absorber than a 6mm lift on my new 183 Bros?
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Originally Posted by skierhj View Post
jay,

sounds like you've got it
OK, so if this is the case then can someone explain why looking online I can find the SAS2 ti 140, but the PX12 ti jib only seems to come in just that, a 12. The only look version ti 14's I could find were the lifter models, no jibs. All the jibs seem to be 12's but there are 120 AND 140 Rossi SAS2 AND Axial2's. What gives? Rossi/Dynastar dealers, any explanation? Do the look version ti 14 jibs exist?

BTW, IMO the Dynastar/Look website is AWFUL!
They make it almost impossible to look at, let alone compare products.
I shun them by not linking.
post #9 of 14
There are no Look branded 14 DIN bindings for 0809. For a higher DIN Look you'll need a PX R 15. 8-15, single pivot toe, metal housing, race heel piece.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by aregee View Post
There are no Look branded 14 DIN bindings for 0809. For a higher DIN Look you'll need a PX R 15. 8-15, single pivot toe, metal housing, race heel piece.
Thanks for the info. I know the 15's are bomber, but I ski at about an 8, so the 8- 15 range is kind of overkill for me.

It's odd that they make a Rossi version of the 4-14 din binding and not a Look one, I thought all the products matched up...

If I'm not mistaken, the SAS2 ti 140's are all metal but the 120's have some plastic in them, right? Are there any other differences aside from the din range?
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
Thanks for the info. I know the 15's are bomber, but I ski at about an 8, so the 8- 15 range is kind of overkill for me.

It's odd that they make a Rossi version of the 4-14 din binding and not a Look one, I thought all the products matched up...

If I'm not mistaken, the SAS2 ti 140's are all metal but the 120's have some plastic in them, right? Are there any other differences aside from the din range?
don't quote me on this, but i'd be willing to bet certain "anatomy" that i've won off of friends in previous bets (not my OWN) that the sas 140ti's are NOT metal....
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by lukc View Post
don't quote me on this, but i'd be willing to bet certain "anatomy" that i've won off of friends in previous bets (not my OWN) that the sas 140ti's are NOT metal....
Hmm, I swear that I read that somewhere before I wrote that last post, but now that I try to find it I can't. I don't know what I read... maybe it was for the 150's. Oh well.
post #13 of 14
anything with a 15 DIN or higher is metal. 14 and lower should be composite. Ti version have metal arms in the heel, but the rest of the binding is composite.

The 140s are 5-14 DIN not 4-14, if it matters.
post #14 of 14

SAS 2 140

The best feature of the SAS2 140 is a worm gear forward pressure adjustment.

The Sas2 120 have the traditional rossi set up.
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