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Looking for (yet another) crud buster

post #1 of 25
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I know this question has been asked many times before. But I can't figure out what's a good search term to pull out the relavent threads.

A bit more specific: I currently have a Trouble Maker, which is fine in many conditions but not exactly brillion at heavy chop-up (or worse, re-frozen)) crud. Ideally, I'd like something that works reasonably well in "average" soft snow, ok in powder and bumps (kind of similar to the TM). So I'm thinking I should be looking for something a bit stiffer at the shovel, it that the right thinking?

So, what is a list of good candidates I should look out for demoping when I get the chance?

To add another big constrain, many skis don't come short enough for me (110lb dripping wet)...
post #2 of 25
After having skied with you, I'd say the best crud buster, confidence building ski you could put on your feet is the Elan Wave Spice. You tend to ski a bit like my little sister. Once she borrowed mine, I couldn't get them back.
They don't excel in bumps but that is minor considering the other areas the Wave Spice will take you.
post #3 of 25
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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post
I know this question has been asked many times before. But I can't figure out what's a good search term to pull out the relavent threads.

A bit more specific: I currently have a Trouble Maker, which is fine in many conditions but not exactly brillion at heavy chop-up (or worse, re-frozen)) crud. Ideally, I'd like something that works reasonably well in "average" soft snow, ok in powder and bumps (kind of similar to the TM). So I'm thinking I should be looking for something a bit stiffer at the shovel, it that the right thinking?

So, what is a list of good candidates I should look out for demoping when I get the chance?

To add another big constrain, many skis don't come short enough for me (110lb dripping wet)...
165 Head IM88? I dont know which your skill level or how willing you are to step up to what is probably a bigger ski but my gut tells me a 110lb person would be quite happy on that ski.

TC recommendation of wave spice should be good one if it skis anything like the unisex model.
post #4 of 25
The conundrum for a light skier is to hit a balance between stiffness which aids crud busting and flex which allows you turn the doggone things easily. If you get something too stiff, you will have to "velocitize" your skiing at least to some extent to get it to turn you. The other alternative of course is to expend a lot of energy and work which will do it too but takes a bit of the fun out of the day. At 110 lbs, my take is that you are on the light side for a unisex ski and especially one which falls on the stiffer side of the spectrum.

A good blend might be the Dynastar Exclusive Legend Powder which is a medium flex with a fairly straight shape. Although I am not a charter memebr of the K2 fan club, I think either the Lotta Luv or especially the Tough Luv would be good bet as well.

SJ
post #5 of 25
Sierra Jim, How does the Nordica Victory feel in comparison to the past years? That may be another option for her.
post #6 of 25
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The conundrum for a light skier is to hit a balance between stiffness which aids crud busting and flex which allows you turn the doggone things easily. SJ
Thanks SierraJim, for your great insight. That's exactly what I'm trying to balance.

The situation is not help by the fact I do sometimes go into trees, which can occasionally be moguls field with obstacles , dictating a more low speed turny style...

Would a ski that's a bit stiffer ONLY at the shovel help? That is, if such ski exist.

In all other aspect, I'm reasonably happy with the Trouble Maker. But I do get bounced around a lot more than I liked when the powder got seriously chopped up. I can manage, but it's not exactly enjoyable.

Basically, I'm trying to improve upon the Trouble Maker, which I'm getting quite used to. I bought the Trouble Maker last year without demoing and it actually worked out quite nicely for most of what I want. The new ski, if I do find the right one, will replace the TM as my "travel ski" for use out west (and spring skiing everywhere).

I'm mostly looking for a list to demo come next season, now that I have a bit more idea of the type of skiing I like. So what is too stiff or not stiff enough will need to be tried out personally.
post #7 of 25
I'm thining the Head Wild Thang could be a nice ski for you.
post #8 of 25
Maybe something in a Bandit.
post #9 of 25
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
I'm thining the Head Wild Thang could be a nice ski for you.
I hadn't thought of that ski. That is the one I used for ESA Stowe. Really nice ski. A sure bet for your demo list!
post #10 of 25
You need a ski that is stable enough to give you the confidence to commit to the fall line in all conditions.

Demo the Volkl Aura and point the skis downhill. You're expending too much energy trying to get away from the fall line as soon as possible.
post #11 of 25
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bklyn, I'm willing to try something stiffer (the TM was somewhat a mis-guided surrender to my low speed mopping style). But I've never really like anything really wide. I feel like a passenger on every one I demo-ed.
post #12 of 25
Can't help you there. For the type of terrain that you like to ski and the snow conditions you're asking about a wider ski would be ideal. A skinnier ski that is stiff enough to plow under crud will probably make you fee like a passenger as well.
post #13 of 25
Thread Starter 
At my weight, more width really don't do that much. I float without balloon!

I know more speed helps. But I really don't want to work so hard just to keep going straight...

Hence the thought of trying something a little stiffer, sort of moving the "balance point" SJ mentioned just a tad towards the stiffer end.
post #14 of 25
K2 Public enemy comes lengths as short as 159, good crud buster & cheap as well. Added plus is that it will still perform well in soft snow too
post #15 of 25
Well I'm quite a bit heavier than you but I hae decided on the i.M 88 for my NE crud busting, seems like the perfect ski for us. My next choice is the Head Mojo 90.
post #16 of 25
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
I'm thining the Head Wild Thang could be a nice ski for you.
Worth a look. Liquidmetal thing works.

If you want a narrower ski, try the Magnum, SuperShape - Head. You don't have to limit yourself to gender specific skis.

In general, go to Stowe - the SkierShop and talk to Whiteroom. They are serious about demos.
post #17 of 25
Most narrow skis will have side cut which is not necessarily conducive to crud busting unless you like to be on edge.
post #18 of 25
Being that you're 110 lbs, and reading your posts & hearing that you get bounced around alot, I'd say you should maybe go with a bit skinnier ski, and a bit stiffer... This way you can go through the chowder instead of over it. The wider the waist, the more you're going to stay on top and fall victim to crap snow. A stiffer, skinnier ski will sink more into the snow and just blast right through it instead of making you go up & over. The only problem here is that a stiffer ski is going to want to go faster and will put you in the backseat easily, so maybe go shorter than you normally would if you like the lazy, slow turns... I'm thinking Head Wild Thang in a 150cm, it has an 81 waist and semi-burly construction, so IMHO it would probably make a great east coast 50/50 ski for you. Maybe SierraJim or Dawgcatching could either shoot me down or back me up?
post #19 of 25
whoa, just noticed epic already said that. My b.
post #20 of 25
Thread Starter 
I'll definitely given the Wild Thang a try come the time. And the others suggested here.

The Trouble Maker was a tad under 80mm at waist and it's plenty wide enough even in fresh snow. So I'll definitely stay in the 80mm range for my demo list.
post #21 of 25
Oops forgot your a gal.....take my suggestions back. My errata.
post #22 of 25
I'm your size, and agree about the Volkl Auras and the Head Wild Thangs. I've demoed both, and they're each terrific skis for what you describe. The Volkl Queen Attivas might be another good option, though they're softer than the Auras. Still, a lot of fun -- just not as powerful. Another good option is the Nordica Conquer and the Volkl Auroras (these are new for next season, and a ton of fun).

I've never tried the Dynastar Exclusive Legend Powders, but a few of the women on TheSkiDiva.com say they're a blast! (Note to self: try them next season!)
post #23 of 25
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You need a ski that is stable enough to give you the confidence to commit to the fall line in all conditions.

Demo the Volkl Aura and point the skis downhill. You're expending too much energy trying to get away from the fall line as soon as possible.
Wow. What a statement. It says so much about my skiing and all the people I ski with. Thanks for the thoughts.

I have new Mantras and last weekend was surprised that my old skiis (B2s) didn't carve as good as the Mantras! The Mantras are the unisex version of the Auras (I believe). I don't know how Volkl can make a fat ski that carves. Wait a minute. I do know how. Their edges stick out farther than other skis. Hurts my shoulder to carry Volkls, but I can't believe the positive feel in all conditions when on them. Also, and I'm pretty sure this is a big difference in Volkl and other skiis, it seems like Volkls can transition between groomed and powder and scab with little variance in feel or position over the skiis. Are they too powerful for me? Maybe sometimes because of my bad knee, but 60% of my skiing this year was in stuff that demanded Volkls. Physics are physics and I guess there are some trade offs that make Volkls volkls. Kinda like picking a scab or popping a nice big tight full zit. Crack! I'm going to take my thorazine now and get ready to find a dress tomorrow to ski in on Mother's day. . . .
post #24 of 25
Torsional stability is key for crud busting. I like the previous Elan Wave Spice recommendation but in general I think you should stick to WSD skis, as in Woman SPECIFIC Design. Your request was not for powder so I would be thinking that you should keep the mid body of the ski well under 80mm, say around 75.
EJ
post #25 of 25
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Originally Posted by EJL View Post
Torsional stability is key for crud busting. I like the previous Elan Wave Spice recommendation but in general I think you should stick to WSD skis, as in Woman SPECIFIC Design. Your request was not for powder so I would be thinking that you should keep the mid body of the ski well under 80mm, say around 75.
EJ
Thanks, I thought that much also.

This will be my travel ski so yes, powder is one of the uses. On the other hand, at my weight (or the lack of ), float is not an issue. Though I found the added lateral stability of 80'ish waist comes in handy on less than smooth (chop up) powder.
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