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Women &Sport: Teach your Daughters to Ski

post #1 of 17
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Well, from the mouths of "babes", I read this really interesting article in, from all places, Vogue!

It spoke about the fact that since the passing of Title 9, more young girls have become involved in sports at an earlier age. As a result, we are seeing muscle tone and development in women who have never seen the inside of a gym, whereas many Baby Boomers are dedicated gym rats.

What is interesting about this is the fact that recent research on osteoporosis prevention has found that unpredictable weight bearing activity is more effective than controlled weight training.

It is speculated, that the younger generation of females may have a significantly smaller risk of losing bone mass, due to their involvment in sports.

For those of us who began our sport at a later age, there is still good news. Sport involvment can delay some of the symptoms of aging. Especially sports that involve balance, stability and fast reaction times!

Happy Skiing!

Be Braver in your body, or your luck will leave you. DH Lawrence
post #2 of 17
KEWL! Though I cant say i really think about preventing osteoporosis when Im ripping down a diamond. Nice to know that all this fun is actually good for me.
post #3 of 17
I tried. At thirteen, she takes the required one hour lesson and then "profiles" with her friends in the lodge.

She has also quit karate and any other sports because she might break a nail.
post #4 of 17
My daughter started skiing at 4 and is still going strong at 15. She also runs crosscountry and plays soccer. There is competition from non-athletic friends, but my daughter seems hooked enough on sports that I think she will continue through high school. I try to be supportive without intruding too much.
post #5 of 17
Well Yuki, your a ski instructor, right. Depends on how much she wants to rebel against what daddy does. My dad teaches skiing, but I like it anyway. My kid sister is threatening to take up snowboarding. Its also a drag if you want to flirt while your playing if your dad works on the mountain.<FONT size="1">

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post #6 of 17
Ah yeah Bethany,
Ain't it great to know that all those millions of $$$ withheld from workers paychecks are goin' towards those highly significant Washington studies...

People....Save yourselves!!...stay inside!...huddle around your television for further information.....
post #7 of 17

I have tried to tread very lightly in these areas....... no pushing and no condemnation. I taught karate too but I made it a point never to teach my kids and always kept my distance as much as I could.

Right now she is in a "rejection" phase... I did mention that she should think about teaching skiing but she dissed that. The thing that hurts is that she is failing in school and needs something positive in her life.

She was so strong and so good...... sigh!
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
One thing I forgot to mention was the article's discussion of sport and social skill development. When I was a young teen in NYC, girls just didn't play sports. I did spend a year as a cheerleader in Junior High School. Cheering on the boys was a HIGHLY acceptable activity.

But by the time I got to High School, the artsy, hippy type school I attended was very anti sport, and certainly very anti cheerleading. And returning home to the tough Italian neighborhood I lived in, the spectator sport was watching the boys get into street fights!

As a result, to this day, competitive activities make me nervous. So skiing is great, until I'm in a program like Whistler's, and they set up the gates. There's this incredibly stupid, highly irrational voice in my head that says "Competition is for butch like, ballsy women!"
Even though I know from seeing female ski racers that is certainly NOT true. {and since I'm "barring my soul" , here, please don't flame me on this, as I've said, its really stupid!}

Last season I got to see what a mountain's racing program can do for the general attitude of teenagers. I was at Mount Snow, and some people had given me a ride to the opposite side of the mountain from where I needed to take a lesson. I rode the lift with 2 14 year old boys who were on MS's race team. While on the lift, I asked them how to get to the ski school. They offered to ski with me down this extremely easy trail {I declined} in order to make sure I found it. But in offering this, there was a certain pride in their mountain, that prompted them to extend this courtesy to a "guest".

Yuki, regarding your daughter. The concern with appearance {afraid to break a fingernail}, the failing in school, my intuition says "Cherchez le Garcon".
Its a touchy subject, often difficult for a dad to deal with. But it is wise to never underestimate the amount of emotional angst a young girl will invest in a boy whose name she will one day not remember!

Be Braver in your body, or your luck will leave you. DH Lawrence
post #9 of 17

Ooooops! My blue collar roots are showing. Your French....... left me clueless?
post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
Sorry! There is a French phrase "Cherchez La Femme", that means "look for the woman". Chechez le garcon, would be "Look for the boy".
post #11 of 17
LisaMaire, I hear you. I think that we are near the same age. I too did not participate in sports as a youngster. Actually did not get active until I hit 30. I still do not like team sports. Recently saw an excerpt from a report from the Sporting Goods Manufactures association (SGMA) entitled "Sports Participation in America” The report tracked trends in fitness, sports, and outdoor activities. You probably know of it already. I have not seen the entire report. The portion I did read reported that "Females had became more involved in outdoor activities in 2000. Females comprised 46% of tent campers, 50% of day hikers and 45% of downhill skiers.”

Do you and others think that the ski industry realizes that nearly half of its market is now women? It seems to me that the ski industry stills markets mainly to young men.
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post #12 of 17
Interesting tread. Our ski racing club is almost all girls in the K1 /K2 levels 11-15 years. The numbers in racing from the race that I volunteered at were about 50 girls and 70 boys entered.
Whether my our daughter sticks to skiing seriously will be determined this year. No not boys in the lodge but a horse in a stable. I'm thinking that there might be good cross training between the two.
post #13 of 17
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Kima, here is an article you should read. http://www.hyperchangecafe.com/Practice/genderlogic.htm

Joan Rostad is the executive VP of the PSIA.
She has also commented that since the mom often plans the family vacations, the ski resorts should "make mom happy". Personally, I get uncomfortable when I'm treated as an "entitlement group", but I do see her point.

I am a little bit older than you are, but of the same generation. First, it was "girls don't play sports", then, sports were not a part of the "hippie culture".

I think the appeal that skiing has for us is that it is not, for the most part, a competitve sport, and its movements are less "macho" than soccer.

An interesting quote from Reviving Orphelia, about depression, suicide and eating disorders in adolescent females.

"Girls in sport are often emotionally healthy. Theysee their bodies as functional, not decorative. They have developed discipline in the pursuit of excellence. They have learned to win and lose, to cooperate, to handle stress and pressure. They are in a peer group that defines itself by athletic ability rather than popularity, drug or alcohol use, wealth or appearance."

Doug, my stepdaughter is an avid horseback rider. Skiing was really easy for her.

BTW, we will be going to Sunshine before the Fernie trip.

Be Braver in your body, or your luck will leave you. DH Lawrence
post #14 of 17
Lisa, Once you have your dates set might be able to make it up to Sunshine on one your dates. Don't have a pass for there but like to do a few days there a year.
Well, daughter says that horse will cut into ski time but would still like new skis. I'm thinking that if she can be thrown off a 15 hand horse and get back on then any ski crashes shouldn't phase her. Also she's on a real team this year, all girls, which should help.
post #15 of 17
God, you guys are scaring this father of a 6 year old girl! Cherchez la valium! I will never get through this!
BTW, she skis, boards, soccer and 3.5 years violin...a highly induged child. But like everyone I have ever talked to a parent about, exceptional, gifted and beautiful. I think I need to be cryrogenicly frozen for a decade or so.
post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 
You'll be fine! And with a dad like you, she will be very fine indeed!
post #17 of 17
Robin, wait until she turns 13, then the fun begins.
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