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A path I'd never walk

post #1 of 17
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This is El Chorro in Spain. You'd have to threaten me with death to walk this path. Come to think of it, a shot to the head would be preferred!!


http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1438490562
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post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by Johnnys Zoo View Post
Maybe you should try this one?
I did that hike up Half Dome many years ago, while in my early 20's. It was a friends b'day & he wanted to do it. We left from Tahoe at 5:00 AM, & got back about the same time the following morning. I remember the hike being about 18 miles round trip, but never realized that we hiked 4800' vetrtical :! I remember my friend Kathy chickened out on the cables & waited there. I also remember sitting with my legs hanging over the edge at the top, & these cliff swallows would come ripping up the wind past me at what seemed like 100 MPH.

At the time it didn't seem like a big deal to go 24 hrs. straight, & do something like that (the ignorance of youth) without any preparation. I probably had a bottle of water & some raisins or something.

I also remember telling the I.T. guy at work that when I retired I was gonna take my computer up there & throw it off!
I haven't been back yet...

Thanks for the link,

JF
post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by Bonni View Post
This is El Chorro in Spain. You'd have to threaten me with death to walk this path. Come to think of it, a shot to the head would be preferred!!


http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1438490562
the way that guy did was realy sketch, but with a climbing harness and a daisy chain its wouldnt be so bad.
post #5 of 17
That's just nuts! Some parts of it look pretty cool, but the parts where there a giant holes in the path...yeah, I'll just go home!
post #6 of 17
I think I would like to do that one in Spain.
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by Bonni View Post
This is El Chorro in Spain. You'd have to threaten me with death to walk this path. Come to think of it, a shot to the head would be preferred!!


http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1438490562
Wow! Threat of death definitely is there! I saw some hiking trails like that on TV when the helicopter camera strayed from a bike race, Tour de France or maybe the Spanish Vuelta. It seems so strange to see stairs and sidewalks in places like that. I'd probably try it, but likely would be scared to death if not fall to my death.

The fact that the path has broken away in sections would not instill confidence in the integrity of the remaining parts.
post #8 of 17
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If it crumbled and left a hole once, it could do it with any step you took.

Part of the allure, I would imagine. I'll just stay home and light damp M-80's, thank you.
post #9 of 17
you guys do relize that there is a saftey cable on the entire path right?
post #10 of 17
Yes, but there are a lot of people strolling along not using it.
post #11 of 17
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Yes, but there are a lot of people strolling along not using it.
they're climbers.

I kind of find it more interesting that one guy actually bought a Zyper and troubled to use it. He prolly has a wife + kids + shiny new car also.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
you guys do relize that there is a saftey cable on the entire path right?
Uh, so?

There is no cable at the very begining where he 'slips'. And the cameraman is passing people too quickly to be clipping and unclipping a harness, so he isn't attached.

If you are clipped onto the cable and the whole walkway falls away (could happen, and obviously did a few times before!), you just climb up on a pencil thin cable? Hopefully you won't crack your arm against the rocks and break it in the sudden unexpectedness of falling, leaving you to use one arm to try to go UP a cable to the ledge, because that cable will be U shaped with the weight of a body hanging on the lowest part of it.

No thanks, still.
post #13 of 17
THe wikipedia article (look for Caminito, not Camino) has a good photo of someone clipped in to go over one of those no-concrete sections. I think most people clip in only for the sketchier parts.

That is a fairly rational approach, given that you are a skilled climber in the first place. The cameraman for the vid never clips in, I agree.

There is another video I stumbled on (didn't save the link, sorry) that is not so immediately gut-clenching but is in some ways more disturbing. It is a couple, the guy (I presume) has the camera and is being goofy -- panning around, pretending to step off a one point, etc. The woman is wearing sneakers, no climbing equipment, etc. She goes ahead and seems to me to be impatient with the guy sometimes. We don't see her go over any of the completely gone sections, but she does go past one spot where 3/4 of a slab is gone--just walks on the remaining part, doesn't grab anything, etc. At another spot they go by a group of climbers staging from the walkway. One or more are climbing, I assume some are belaying, and one is orgainizing equipment. The guy and his "stuff" is blocking most of the width, and he is waving his arms around stringing out ropes -- the couple go around him, don't even slow down or wait for him to stop moving. Yikes!

As you may guess, I'm not a rockclimber. I have been simultaneously attracted and frightened by it for years. We used to climb the library walls (rough-cut granite) back in college -- I broke my foot once falling about ten feet.
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by Bonni View Post
Uh, so?

If you are clipped onto the cable and the whole walkway falls away (could happen, and obviously did a few times before!), you just climb up on a pencil thin cable?
While any climber who's ever taken a roped fall on an overhang -could- do that, there is no reason to.

One climbs the face one is belayed against, saving energy for the lateral to the next intact section.

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Hopefully you won't crack your arm against the rocks and break it in the sudden unexpectedness of falling,
That, and the high fall ratio* is why they're actually clipped in with Zypers, which is a Y-shaped lanyard with -two- clips.

*technical term related to how far the body drops vs. how far the pro stretches to absorb the drop, nothing to do with statistics.


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leaving you to use one arm to try to go UP a cable to the ledge, because that cable will be U shaped with the weight of a body hanging on the lowest part of it.
The steel cable will be just fine and dandy, it's bolted to the rock every 10 meters or so. The climber is some feet below the cable, facing the rock at the bottom of the Y lanyard with the stitches ripped out of the Y. The climber then proceeds to climb the face to the cable, which is what most of them came to do anyway.

PS the ability to hang full body weight off one finger joint for notable periods, and to climb using the feet not the hands, is something I would almost take for granted from anyone doing outdoor lead. (Lead= clipping the rope into the pro or placing pro, in the fall scenario the Zyper is already clipped in, relieving that work load.)
post #15 of 17
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It's still scary, Peej. I'm wetting myself just thinking about it.
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by Bonni View Post
Uh, so?

There is no cable at the very begining where he 'slips'. And the cameraman is passing people too quickly to be clipping and unclipping a harness, so he isn't attached.

If you are clipped onto the cable and the whole walkway falls away (could happen, and obviously did a few times before!), you just climb up on a pencil thin cable? Hopefully you won't crack your arm against the rocks and break it in the sudden unexpectedness of falling, leaving you to use one arm to try to go UP a cable to the ledge, because that cable will be U shaped with the weight of a body hanging on the lowest part of it.

No thanks, still.

as comprex said that cable aint given out. Plus I ahve taken some scary fall rock climbing, hitting stuff while swinging in the air. Yeah it hurt but bone breakage is hard, I have just had bruises.

I also addmitted in my first post that he was doing this a really sketchy way(using no protection), i personally would walk alot of it with out pro, but when it comes to the balance on a single beam I think i would rather clip, it would probably help my concentrat more on balancing knowing that a fall would mean a cut or a scrape and not death.

If you want to see really scary you should see what 'trad' climbers use for protection from a fall. little tiny nuts that can hold 1000s of pound.....IF they are placed properly.
post #17 of 17
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little tiny nuts that can hold 1000s of pound.....IF they are placed properly.
:: I hope it's not what I'm thinking::
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