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What pure slalom gates board would YOU choose ?

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Just want to see what you guys are thinking about a pure bread slalom ski that...
- Cuts thru icy "ruts" like butter
- Is fast, lively, but stable in the steepest, fastest SL courses.
- Litterally "skis by itself" (not the "beefy type")
- ...YOU would pick ...

AND...wich ones you wouldn't pick...
- Because of their down side (develop (no bashing...don't want to start a war here....)...)
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Brands???



Dad
post #2 of 20
I personally ski on Volkl because I find they find a fine balance between grip and power and nimbleness and agility. I do find, however, that they are a tad high-strung, making them incredibly quick but also very prone to tossing you around.

I would not ski on Atomic. I found that they are very heavy and set in the snow, probably impossible for someone of my 165 lbs. frame to toss around with ease. However, they are the quietest, most stable, most damp slaloms I have been on. I have been told by several high-level coaches, however, that they are an unwise choice for anyone under 200 lbs.

My advice would be to try as many skis as possible. Reviews and recommendations will give you an idea but only trying them yourself will allow you to pinpoint which work best for your needs.
post #3 of 20
I have not actually been on any modern SL race stock skis, but I still have an opinion.

I would choose Fischer WC SL. Extrapolating from the WC SC, they should perform well, and still be sensitive enough to help you make fine adjustments on the edge. Atomics as a family are a bit on the heavy-handed side. I've never been impressed with Rossignols; they seem to work well-enough for almost any type of skier, but for me their middle ground prevents them from excelling, not strong enough. Nordica, by all accounts sounds like it might work for me too (I'm an old Kästle fan), but I think you might not find it "light" enough.
post #4 of 20
Volkl. Grips on ice like nothing else, and very snappy (racestock version). Have skiied the WC version, same, just not as snappy. I wish I wasn't so word-retarded right now (cant find good words for some reason ).

Stocklis are nice, but a tad too soft.

Atomics, like DC said, are heavier, and dont work well for light weights. That and they cost quite a bit.

Rossignol - Depends who you are, but whenever I get on my friends Rossis they feel dead.
post #5 of 20

Atomic SL12...

...best SL ski I've ever been on...
post #6 of 20
Atomic SL12.

If you're strong & skilled, you would probably prefer the FIS-rated model to the recreational racer (SL12pb) in gates, but both are solid performers.
post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 
The SL12's 2005 thru 2007 (race stock) have that soft plastic tip that I often see broken, it it replaceable, like the newer metal tip with the screw ?



Dad
post #8 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiRacer55 View Post
...best SL ski I've ever been on...
I have to echo this...absolutely amazing ski!
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by DaddySL View Post
The SL12's 2005 thru 2007 (race stock) have that soft plastic tip that I often see broken, it it replaceable, like the newer metal tip with the screw ?
I've actually found the plain plastic tip to be much more durable -- I destroyed two sets of the metal w/ screw tips last year on the 12pb.
post #10 of 20

True story...

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Originally Posted by mogulmuncher View Post
I've actually found the plain plastic tip to be much more durable -- I destroyed two sets of the metal w/ screw tips last year on the 12pb.
...I've probably got 40+ days of training/racing on the SL12 race stocks I have, and I've had no problems with the tips, or anything else...getting another pair for next year...also dumping both pairs of my Head IGS RDs and going back to Atomic for GS....2 pairs of 186 GS 12 FIS-compliant race stock skis to complement...195 Atomic SGs...2 pairs of 201 Atomic SGs...2 pairs of Atomic 205 SGs...
post #11 of 20
The plastic is designed to break so that the actual ski doesn't.

Many people love the Atomics but use with care! They're really not for everyone! Also, the SL 12 PB is not a good indicator of the stock ski's characteristics so reviews do not really compare. The stock is a beast and is SLOW for many people, even if it feels really solid.
post #12 of 20
I've been pleased with Fischer and Nordica. Also hear good things about Dynastar.
post #13 of 20
I like the Rossi WC SL. I find it's soft enough to forgive my frequent mistakes but still stiff enough to grip and accelerate when I get it right.

This year a crop of blizzards appeared in our race league and took the top 3 places for the year. All 3 of these guys are bigger, stronger and more skilled than me so I think I'm on the right stuff.

I would like to test the blizzards just to see what they're like.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by DaddySL View Post
- Cuts thru icy "ruts" like butter
- Is fast, lively, but stable in the steepest, fastest SL courses.
- Litterally "skis by itself" (not the "beefy type")
- ...YOU would pick ...
Sounds like an Elan SLX to me.
I myself prefer the beefier Atomic but I'm a bit heavier and more of a muscle skier than anything else.

The Elan is truly a great ski and (at least in Europe) the best bang for the buck you can get on a performing SL ski.
post #15 of 20
I have an older pair of Elan SLX World Cup (maybe 2003) that are great for me at least. They are beefy enough to carry speed out of a turn without mushing out, very easy to turn, stable at speed. I'm sure skis get improved every year although the current slalom skis don't look much different at least. I would be curious to know what the current development trends are that might be reflected in top of the line racing skis.
post #16 of 20
Fischer or Volkl.

I also like the Fischer RX Hotfire (reviewed here), not a race ski, but a really strong ski with a ridiculously tight radius.
post #17 of 20

Elan

I'm a huge fan of the Elan SLX Fusion Pro and had very good luck with them this year. Unfortunately, the 2008 model is no longer available. For 2009, Elan is adding one meter to the radius (it will now be 12.9) and incorporating WaveFlex technology. The price will go up.

The 2008 World Cup model is still available but in limited supply.
post #18 of 20
There is probably a reason why two of the top slalom skiers (both Austrians) in the world ski on Blizzard, and they did it beating a group of the old guard, on the usual top slalom skis, Fischer and Atomic. A superb ski reasonably priced and available in race stock.
post #19 of 20
3rd and 15th, a real world beating duo...

There's probably a reason why Fischer topped the mens brand rankings for SL... sponsorship budget... And they're damn good skis to boot.
post #20 of 20
Thread Starter 
Just to mix up things a bit....

.....With Moelgg joining Grange and Ligety in the Rossignol "stable", that certainly makes the French brand one of the top three....(actually, 1st, 2nd and 9th skier in the world in SL)

.....But that's the WC...

...If I was able to carve slalom arcs as fast as these guys, I wouldn't have asked you guys ...

....I would've done exactly like them...going for the most lucrative contract...: $$$$$.

...But , back to topic...



Dad
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