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WTB Slalom Skis 165 Fischer or Atomic

post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 
Looking for a pair of SL skis. Ideal models would be:


Atomic SL12
Fishcer WC SL
Fischer WC SC

Other skis considered.

165 or so in length desired.:
post #2 of 27
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post
Looking for a pair of SL skis. Ideal models would be:


Atomic SL12
Fishcer WC SL
Fischer WC SC

Other skis considered.

165 or so in length desired.:
How about a different Austrian ski company? Blizzard. I have a pair of 165 race stock I would sell for $300 including plates. They are literally mint.
post #3 of 27
Thread Starter 
I don't know anything about them. I'm not a racer, but looking for something to kick my ass into gear on short turns - to help me to improve in that area. In general I'm a bit unsure if a race stock ski would be too much for me. waddyathink?
post #4 of 27
Do it.... nice ski.

Also, check out the Head RD SL. Probably the nicest slalom ski I have tried.
post #5 of 27
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post
I don't know anything about them. I'm not a racer, but looking for something to kick my ass into gear on short turns - to help me to improve in that area. In general I'm a bit unsure if a race stock ski would be too much for me. waddyathink?
For a Race Stock, I think the Blizzard is pretty tame and easy to handle.
post #6 of 27
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Do it.... nice ski.

Also, check out the Head RD SL. Probably the nicest slalom ski I have tried.
Head... another Austrian ski! You know, really among those 4 brands, you're really talking personal preference. I don't think you could go wrong with any of them. My buddy Justin, who skis on Head SL's tried my Blizzards and liked them better than his Heads.

Truthfully, I'd put the Atomics at the bottom of the list, a step below any of the other 3.
post #7 of 27
Not to take away from UP's offer, but I also have a pair of Blizzard Mag SL's. Race Stock.
A year older version, I bought new for my husband this year. Turns out he's not a short turn kind of guy. Skied literally only 3 times.
I'll sell with bindings $275.00 + shipping.

*I think my husband's nuts! I LOVE my Blizzard Mag SL's!!!
If its not 180 CM's he isn't interested.:

post #8 of 27
Thread Starter 
TC, what's the dimensions and turn radius of those skis? 165?
Also what size boots are they drilled for?
Can't beat the price.
post #9 of 27
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post
Head... another Austrian ski! You know, really among those 4 brands, you're really talking personal preference. I don't think you could go wrong with any of them. My buddy Justin, who skis on Head SL's tried my Blizzards and liked them better than his Heads.

Truthfully, I'd put the Atomics at the bottom of the list, a step below any of the other 3.
The Head felt as turny as a snowblade, but still ultra stable at speed. It also felt very unwieldy at slow speeds. I really enjoy the Blizzard for bumps 'n stuff. Wouldn't want to ski the Head there. That said, I was truly blown away by the performance of the Heads. They were sorta between my Dynastars and my Mags. The Dynastars want to hurt you if you are off of the boilerplate. They just want to go TRONing. The Heads were super high performance, but still freeskiable.

Rossi CX70 would also be a really good ski.
post #10 of 27
Thread Starter 
So the Blizzards would be good at slower speeds as well? Trying to make short RR turns on moderate slopes? That's my main goal.

My quiver currently is:
RX8 175
Watea 84 176 (just ordered them)
Unknown SL skis for working on short turns (NOT racing or going very fast)
post #11 of 27
I think I'd suggest the CX70 or a Volkl Racetiger SC over a stock ski.
post #12 of 27
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post
TC, what's the dimensions and turn radius of those skis? 165?
Also what size boots are they drilled for?
Can't beat the price.
With Blizzard, the Dims and TR are not published, but I'm guessing 114-64-100(ish) with something like an 11-12m TR.

They are drilled for 325 boots, but when my husband bought new boots immediately after he had them mounted, they were adjusted(not redrilled) to his current 316.
post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
I think I'd suggest the CX70 or a Volkl Racetiger SC over a stock ski.
I think those would be awfully close to an overlap with his RX8.
post #14 of 27
Mine are 114/64/100. They are marked with a radius of 13.5.

I'll throw in a pair of 5.14 Blizzard bindings for another 50 bucks.



post #15 of 27
Ooooo, UP this could get quite spirited!!!
Wanna arm wrestle?
I think I could take ya!

In all honesty, My husbands that I'm selling are a year older than mine, (mine are are exactly like UP's but in a 155).
I'm not sure of the technology changes from one year to the other.

There is a review of the Mag SL's somewhere. I'll look for it.
post #16 of 27
These are a couple reviews on the ski UP has listed.
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...light=Blizzard
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...light=Blizzard

There is some good feedback in those.
post #17 of 27
I've got some 165cm Worlducup SCs I might be willing to part with. They are 2007s with the 17Din bindings. Just had them waxed, they are in great shape with normal scrapes and scratches from use. Probably been on snow around 15 days or so. PM me if interested and I can email pics.
post #18 of 27
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post
I think those would be awfully close to an overlap with his RX8.
I think you're right. That said, maybe the RX8 is the right tool for the job to begin with. If I wanted something with a bunch more energy, it would be the RD SL.
post #19 of 27
Thread Starter 
well the blizzard seems like it would be a lot stiffer then the RX8 wouldn't it?

If not the WC SL certainly would be, true?
post #20 of 27
I don't really feel like the Mag SL is very stiff. The Head and my Dynastars are much stiffer. Couldn't say about the Fischers.
post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
I don't really feel like the Mag SL is very stiff. The Head and my Dynastars are much stiffer. Couldn't say about the Fischers.
"Stiffness" is such a subjective trait to try to quantify... To me, the Head's, Blizzard's and Fischer's feel about the same. Each has their own individuality, but I'd say the stiffness is roughly the same. If I were to describe a standout trait for each, it would be:
Blizzard - Edgegrip
Fischer - Stability
Head - Dampness

Dynastar's on the other hand feel like noodles to me. In my personal opinion, they are probably one of the least impressive slalom skis I've ever tried.

Possibly what you perceive as "stiffness" is how hard you have to work to get the ski to respond the way you want. I feel like the Blizzard is fairly easy to ski, provided you have a solid modern technique, and can apply proper forces and angles to the skis. Under those circumstances, they almost turn themselves. However, the harder you press on them, the firmer the snow gets, and the better the skier.... the more they respond.

Does any of that babble make sense??

(sometimes I feel like these ski reviews are like the old fable about the blind men trying to describe an elephant... Everyone sees it differently)
post #22 of 27
Skis change over the years, and of course there are those different levels of "Race Stock". My Dynastars and my Rossi GS skis both came from actual WC skiers, so they might be different from what you would buy in a store.

I didn't really feel like the Blizzard stood out in any particular performance category, but it was (is) also the easiest to ski. It also skis way better with the WC piston plate than it did with the VIST that came on it.
post #23 of 27
From the opposite end of the spectrum, I've got some Dynastar Omecarve 09's in 165.

Very good condition, $75.
post #24 of 27
SMJ

Since you are a Fischer fan i have a pair of 07 165 wc sl new in plastic at $375.
I have not been able to try the Blizzard yet, (hopefully will be able to rectify that next season).
I have owned both the Head RD SL and the Fischer WC Sl. My personal preference is for the Fischer as it feels more lively for me than the Head (which I thought was also great for free skiing) The Head just felt a bit heavier/damper for me.

However I would go along with the assessments by Epic and UP . You can't really go wrong with any of them, they just have slightly different characters
post #25 of 27
Thread Starter 
Thanks SS, I would have bought them, but already bought the Blizzard's from UP Racer.
post #26 of 27
NP SMJ!. I am sure you will enjoy. I look forward to trying some of them out next year. Would be interesting to go back to Blizzard since my first pair of race skis were the original Blizzard Firebird SL circa 72-73!
post #27 of 27
Thread Starter 
Skied the Blizzards for the first time today on moderate groomed slopes.

Loved them! No let me rephrase that. LOVED THEM!!!!! Never made such nice round turns and felt so centered on a pair of skis. I'll post a longer review after I've had them out a few times. Much better (for me) then the RX8's. I wonder how they'll do in glades and bumps?
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