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post #481 of 578
I didn't see him for a while, but he's gone now.

How did you know it was Shanghai? 218.81.105.130 Banned

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Originally Posted by samurai View Post
Who's the childish copy-cat?

Nice alias.

*edit- he's a spammer from Shanghai. He's copying other posts because his English sucks.

take your fraud elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
Yep, trying to direct hits to the signature url, hiding . s with "dots"
post #482 of 578
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
How did you know it was Shanghai? 218.81.105.130 Banned
I followed his URL. The guy/girl sells brand-name stuff, Nike, TNF, Gucci, etc through his site. The English is absolutely horrid. He developed his site with a translation tool converting Chinese to English.

At first glance, I got the impression that all his merchandise is also fake. :

I guess selling fake Spyder on Ebay isn't easy anymore.
post #483 of 578
I bet slightly used 'Sclades can be had for a great deal. I would start shopping them. Also, take a glance on www.swapalease.com, with people dumping these big SUV's there are deals to be found.

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post #484 of 578
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
Jay: don't hate the player, hate the game. I never said I am or want to be a ski bum. If I was a trust fund baby, then perhaps I would spend 75%of my life just skiing around the world, but since I want a future and one with all its rewards, in every form, no can do bub.
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Anyone who posts about buying (what can be perceived as) a socially irresponsible vehicle is trying to make a statement and is opening themselves up to this type of criticism. But lets make sure it is not personal attacks and lets keep it PG-13.
So apparently my previous post in this thread got pulled for "personal attacks." Well, buying "a socially irresponsible vehicle" and bragging about it on here is a personal decision, and says a lot about how someone (RR) lives their life. This is a very personal thing, and I think the attacks are warranted! Sorry it slipped from PG-13 to R tho, I guess I just got frustrated reading all the BS.

Bottom line is that anyone who enjoys spending time outdoors should have at least SOME respect for the environment. To not is not only irresponsible and counter-productive, it's just plain stupid. Oops, there I go with the personal attacks again. Oh well, I think they're justified and at least this time it's PG!

-Jay
post #485 of 578
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Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
So apparently my previous post in this thread got pulled for "personal attacks." Well, buying "a socially irresponsible vehicle" and bragging about it on here is a personal decision, and says a lot about how someone (RR) lives their life. This is a very personal thing, and I think the attacks are warranted! Sorry it slipped from PG-13 to R tho, I guess I just got frustrated reading all the BS.

Bottom line is that anyone who enjoys spending time outdoors should have at least SOME respect for the environment. To not is not only irresponsible and counter-productive, it's just plain stupid. Oops, there I go with the personal attacks again. Oh well, I think they're justified and at least this time it's PG!

-Jay
Just because someone lives their life, not to a standard you choose, is not grounds to attack them here. I am sure there are things how do in your life that others don't choose. If you don't like the BS..stay out of the thread.

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post #486 of 578
Thread Starter 
Thanks Phil

I doubt Jay took the time to read the whole thread.....which if he did he would understand that I was looking for opinions on how these big SUV's stand up to use. Bragging? Sounds to me like you have issues to sort out Jay.
post #487 of 578
RR, still stirring the pot?

post #488 of 578
Thread Starter 
Yeah you know breathing air, living my life, defending myself, having to justify my actions to hypocrites.....yeah, pot stirrer that's me.:
post #489 of 578
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
I bet slightly used 'Sclades can be had for a great deal. I would start shopping them.
Betcha new ones can be had at virtually used prices just to get them off dealers lots.
post #490 of 578
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
...having to justify my actions to hypocrites.....
I know you can't be talking about me...

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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
Betcha new ones can be had at virtually used prices just to get them off dealers lots.
Wait a bit longer and they will be giving those silly HUGE SUV's away just to get out of paying the disposal fees!
post #492 of 578
One of these came down the street this morning towing a large SUV.
I'm thinking, Richie could go bigger.

post #493 of 578
I find the fact that I have a good job and a large dodge truck are mutually supportive things. I have no problem with the current price of fuel, it sorts out those who really don't need super duty trucks and monster mini vans (SUV's). I find the entire situation comical.
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Originally Posted by spud6414 View Post
I find the fact that I have a good job and a large dodge truck are mutually supportive things. I have no problem with the current price of fuel, it sorts out those who really don't need super duty trucks and monster mini vans (SUV's). I find the entire situation comical.
Did you just admit on a forum to supporting high fuel prices so you can feel elite?

mmmmkkk. :
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Did you just admit on a forum to supporting high fuel prices so you can feel elite?

mmmmkkk. :
No ... he means that if you really need a large vehicle like that, you won't whine so much about fuel costs because you have no other options. It's the price of doing business.

I'm not sure I totally agree with that, but it has nothing to do with elitism. People are way too sensitive about that around here.
post #496 of 578
Haven't followed ebb and flow of this thread, but interesting article today in Wash Post about poor sales/values for gas guzzlers. Excerpt follows, with link to full article below:
When gas hit $2, and even when it reached $3, car dealers saw little change in their monthly tallies. People grumbled, but they still bought cars and let their fantasies govern their decisions. If they wanted something that would dominate the road, they dug a little deeper and took out a loan.
Not anymore.
A woman came in the other day and traded her BMW X5, which was worth $30,000, straight up for an Acura MDX, which was worth $22,000. "Same year, same miles," Moalem says. "She was willing to take an $8,000 loss on the BMW just to get her gas payments lower. She wanted out of that eight-cylinder, now."
These days, when someone does come in and does make a deal, odds are that the customer is going to leave without that little-kid smile that used to accompany the purchase of new wheels. A guy walked in last week to trade his Ford Expedition, a true behemoth of a vehicle. Problem was, he'd just put $4,800 of repairs into the SUV. Then he learned that all the dealer would give him for it was $2,500. This does not make for a happy customer.
"I said, 'Why'd you put all that money into it? Nobody wants this car!' " Moalem says. "Now he's got negative equity in the car.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews
post #497 of 578
What is really interesting is that RR would still want to buy a rig that will depreciate so greatly the moment he drives off the lot.

Quite literally throwing money into the wind just to watch it flutter.

People will do as they determine the need, I guess.
post #498 of 578
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Originally Posted by samurai View Post
What is really interesting is that RR would still want to buy a rig that will depreciate so greatly the moment he drives off the lot.

Quite literally throwing money into the wind just to watch it flutter.

People will do as they determine the need, I guess.
The strange thing is that if you try and buy one of these newly depreciated vehicles you cannot find one for the price your day-old one is supposed to have depreciated to.
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The strange thing is that if you try and buy one of these newly depreciated vehicles you cannot find one for the price your day-old one is supposed to have depreciated to.
On the contrary, that's exactly the point. They depreciate so low, that the original owners could never justify not keeping it. Just like the guy above who was offered 2500 for his Expedition that he just 4800 of repairs into.
post #500 of 578
http://www.teslamotors.com/

Just wanted to share this with you guys... There's much talk of gas mileage and this car is at the forefront of actual, real-life performance and outstanding fuel economy. Too bad it's a hair under $100k. Even at that price, it could still be a hell of an investment to buy a car that gets 256 mpg.

I can't wait until Tesla makes a pickup with an extra cab & an 8 foot bed. (not that it will ever happen, but anyways...)
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http://www.teslamotors.com/

Just wanted to share this with you guys... There's much talk of gas mileage and this car is at the forefront of actual, real-life performance and outstanding fuel economy. Too bad it's a hair under $100k. Even at that price, it could still be a hell of an investment to buy a car that gets 256 mpg.

I can't wait until Tesla makes a pickup with an extra cab & an 8 foot bed. (not that it will ever happen, but anyways...)
I think that you are only comparing the monetary savings. What about the savings to the environment? Not to mention lessening global oil demand?
That counts for a lot!
post #502 of 578
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Originally Posted by DropCliffsNotBombs View Post
I think that you are only comparing the monetary savings. What about the savings to the environment? Not to mention lessening global oil demand?
That counts for a lot!

Oh, Absolutely! I love the environmental aspect of this car. Basically it means you don't have to look like a total douchetool in a prius-like gaymobile to do something constructive for the environment. I just wish it's underlying technology was more readily available to the general public, i.e. the $100k pricetag puts being this green far away for most. If the layman could afford a no-brainer like this our situation would be far better off. Even better yet, incorporate this tech into bigger vehicles like pickups so the working guy who actually needs the gas guzzler could get a freakin break too...
post #503 of 578
Just don't write off the environmental impact that include the chemicals and pollution spent producing the batteries then replacing them and disposing of them. Recycing is within the realm of possibility, but it is currently a lot less expensive to produce new batteries from new materials than it is to produce a similar product from recycled old battery materials. I do think that some form of electric vehicles is going to be the transportation of the future, they need to work on a plan to keep batteries from piling up in landfills and on the bottom of the ocean. As for btus burned in production and use over a 100,000 mile lifespan, hybrids and electrics definately produce a lot less greenhouse gasses. They just need to make sure the chemicals are disposed of/recycled safely. They're not there yet.
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....
A woman came in the other day and traded her BMW X5, which was worth $30,000, straight up for an Acura MDX, which was worth $22,000. "Same year, same miles," Moalem says.
"She was willing to take an $8,000 loss on the BMW just to get her gas payments lower. She wanted out of that eight-cylinder, now."

...

A 2006 X5 V8 rates 15/21 MPG and a 2006 MDX V6 rates 17/23 MPG

In a "typical" 15,000 miles per year scenario split 50/50 between city/Hwy she is going to save 90 gals of gas per year. At $4.50/gal that's $405. She took an $8,000 hit to save $405/year??

Even if she's drving 2x the miles every year, it just doesn't make economic sense. Either she failed mathematics, or the salesman majored in creative story telling. It just doesn't add up...
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Originally Posted by medmarkco View Post

A 2006 X5 V8 rates 15/21 MPG and a 2006 MDX V6 rates 17/23 MPG

In a "typical" 15,000 miles per year scenario split 50/50 between city/Hwy she is going to save 90 gals of gas per year. At $4.50/gal that's $405. She took an $8,000 hit to save $405/year??

Even if she's drving 2x the miles every year, it just doesn't make economic sense. Either she failed mathematics, or the salesman majored in creative story telling. It just doesn't add up...
Thanks. I was thinking something similar. $8000 will pay for a lot of fill-ups. Something I've seen in DC area lately is a surge in the number of Smart cars and minicoopers on the road. Fine if you need a new, small vehicle or are leasing, but dumb if purchasing $15-20K hi MPG car just to replace a perfectly functional low MPG paid-for car.
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My neighbor traded his truck that get's 10 MPG (according to him ) for one that gets 13 MPG and was very pleased. He was bragging about how his wife's Volvo XC90 gets "almost 20". Clearly, the public still has a way to go. This guy has cancelled his family's health insurance because he can't afford it, but just can't fathom driving a smaller/less expensive/more fuel efficient car. Nobody can see his health insurance.
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^^^ Good call Med/James. Much of the resale and trade-in problems many face today is due to slick-talking salesmen. "Wait, you can't trade that in- nobody wants it and it will rot on the lot." $2,500 for an Expedition that's just had everything fixed??? Salesman is certainly making loot on both ends, for sure. He knows he's got 'em right where he wants 'em. Same with the X5- this shouldn't be in "anti-truck rant" it should be in "swindling salesman weekly"... Look, gas IS an issue, but many salesmen are using the so-called "gas crisis" to bend people even further over the barrell than usual. It's bad, but it ain't THAT bad.
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
My neighbor traded his truck that get's 10 MPG (according to him ) for one that gets 13 MPG and was very pleased. He was bragging about how his wife's Volvo XC90 gets "almost 20". Clearly, the public still has a way to go. This guy has cancelled his family's health insurance because he can't afford it, but just can't fathom driving a smaller/less expensive/more fuel efficient car. Nobody can see his health insurance.
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^^^ Good call Med/James. Much of the resale and trade-in problems many face today is due to slick-talking salesmen. "Wait, you can't trade that in- nobody wants it and it will rot on the lot." $2,500 for an Expedition that's just had everything fixed??? Salesman is certainly making loot on both ends, for sure. He knows he's got 'em right where he wants 'em. Same with the X5- this shouldn't be in "anti-truck rant" it should be in "swindling salesman weekly"... Look, gas IS an issue, but many salesmen are using the so-called "gas crisis" to bend people even further over the barrell than usual. It's bad, but it ain't THAT bad.
No one dragged either of these people onto the sales lot. Both of these people came in to get out of their vehicle no matter what or who was going to do the deal. Many of times I have tried to talk people out of doing stupid transactions only to either have them say, "No...I am going to do this" or (worse for me) go some place else to buy a car. I will bet the salesman did not say to Epics guy..."If you only dropped your health insurance, you could afford this car". Yes, there are bad salespeople out there, not one would ever do that. That stupid decision was done by the customer and the customer alone. I can tell you many of stories of what people will do to get out of a car, all against their own best interest.

You cannot save people from themselves.

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post #509 of 578
The thing about used car salesmen is they are not going to give you $5000 for your car when they are reasonably certain they can talk you into selling it for $2500, even when they know they can sell it for $6000.

Same thing goes for sales. They won't sell you a car for $15000, when they are reasonable certain they can hook you for $18000. I've met an awful lot of salesmen who were reasonably sure they could get an extra 5 grand out of me, but were mistaken. I've always just looked up the book value for my cars and sold them privately for what they were worth; I hate playing salesman's games.
post #510 of 578
In terms of pollution, the impact of a $3,000 small Indian car that becomes widely available on the subcontinent could be far worse. In Europe, scooters are terrible polluters though that issue could be easily solved.

Here's an article on cleaning up two stroke engines for Manilla, Phillipines where the small engines (100-150cc's) of three wheelers pollute worse than dozens of cars. The fix includes a catlytic converter and modified cylinder head.

http://www.memagazine.org/supparch/p.../2strokes.html
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