BIG ski SUV - Page 14  

Wow Acro, I'm impressed that you came over here. See maybe those bumps aren't that bad...
crgildart,
really...possibly you could give Acrophobia bump lessons in exchange for some math tutoring? She's good, I'll vouch for her.
Will you be anywhere near Alpental this weekend? That's where she needs to go.

On 10 gallons of gas:
Subaru goes 180miles
Yukon goes 120miles

Now, 180/120 = 18/12 = 3/2 =1.50 or 150% this is commonly referred to as 50% !
So the Subaru goes 50% further, not 35%!
Where did you get 35 anyway? I could see 33 1/3 %

Hopefully Aquaman is still reading this for his SAT questions.

Here's some Abbott and Costello Math:



So, here's to this thread!:

I think it's hilarious that if the sea ever did rise (who know's) Long Island will probably not fare too well.

Mt Snow comes immediately to mind, with Berkshire East and even Jiminy having more character in a couple of trails that the other two's combined total.

And when the snow is decent, anyone who'd go to those two (and Bromley) instead of Magic needs some serious conseling.

Well done like I said after someone else pointed out my terrible error already
The part of the equation that is missing is how the Subie will perform with a huge ski box and all of the luggage tied on the roof, also previously mentioned

I thought docking it 15% was generous.

And...

you still think it's about the vehicle.

This is what's funny; RR knows that I am his anti-hero... as he is mine.

And, ironically, we battle justifiably within our understood boundries.

The rest of you still think the battle has someting to do with tools. Like- one guy with a sword versus another with a stick.

Battle is just a medium.

War-- on the other hand-- is an art.

I'm going to burn this guy a new a**hole. And-- he's actually going to laugh because it will tickle. My torches are his feathers.

And in the end, he'll thank me for standing up to him because nobody else in his life ever had the courage to say he was wrong.

This thread will die when RR realizes that even his friends don't care as much as his enemies.

Troll or lively discussion? You decide.

Stopped at the Subie dealer the other day. The new Forester really is pretty nice. I think it would serve most people well on any trip with a roof box and hitch haul. I am seriously considering it when we replace the Slaab SUV soon. The hitch will also pull a utility (and also a canoe/kayak) trailer in the summer which can haul more than enough stuff for any adventure.

I think smaller SUV with roof box and/or utility trailer as needed is the way to go.

Fair enough, especially considering parking issues at ski resorts. A Yukon is pusing it and might end up having to park with busses and RVs. My Trooper barely fits in some spots. You can back a trailer into a spot, un hitch it then park next to the trailer.

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400th post on thread
you win prizes!



Music:Chop Suey by System Of A Down

S.O.A.D

That's a Great Prize right there. Cheers, Tog. You honestly made my night in ways you may not know.

"I cry when angels deserve to die in my self-righteous suicide."

I'm not sure why I'l bother to say it RR, but you ought to consider what your "needs" really are, and does the car you are considering actually cover them. For example, if a fraction of 1% is these Home Depot runs, does the Escalade actually cover that? I'd say probably not. Can you really fit the stuff you need in there? I ca't tell you how many times I've used my wife's horse-trailer to bring stuff from the lumber yard and I could barely even get it in there. The other day, I saw a used F-150 with a For Sale sign asking $4000. Why not just take that fraction of a percent and shift it to a used pick-up? Then look at the other needs. How much car do you need to cover those, and why would you want your skis inside the car, when you can carry them in a box on the roof? That will open a lot of options.

Anyway, enjoy the 'Sclade. Be sure to get chrome 22"s for it.

let's up it a notch

Deadly Sinners

3 Inches of Blood

Well, if I had to look at those dudes for too long I'd be thinking about six feet of dirt.
I think the Subaru on the tracks would work pretty well, though at 75% larger the Yukon wouldn't fare much better.

I thought that other video was pretty well done for a home job esp..

I'm pretty amazed at the visceral reaction many people seem to have towards the Yukon, Expeditions and similar large SUVs these days. My last Yukon was a 99' and I had it equipped with a hydraulic snowplow, and it pulled a 3-horse slant in summer. When we moved to a lower elevation into suburbia, I got a sedan, then later the Murano with a hitch for the Home Depot runs.

One thing I'll say in RR's behalf is that he is buying American, or at least a mainly U.S. and Canadian joint venture. I am actually more concerned about balance of trade issues than the effect of one car on global warming, and I have zero concern about the price of fuel to RR. One thing though, if I was going to buy a Yukon, I'd buy one just a year or two old. The value of these things has just dropped out of sight. The savings on a used SUV could buy a LOT of gas. Its just a terrible investment of money, but I can live with that too as long as it isn't mine.

As far as owning 2-vehicles to have a smaller car and a truck for the HD runs...no way does it pencil to pay insurance and double depreciation just to be politically correct. The PC attitude is just as wasteful and vain as what the accusers think RR is doing.

While I disagree with your tough metal dude, I'll help you out



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Of course the other option is to call a friend who has a pickup. Assuming he has a friend.

He already has 3 cars. That's not really the point though. The point is that the Caddy "pickup" will probably not meet his needs anyway. I saw a Caddy at the trailhead the otehr day. The guy ad to have the tailgate down just to have a bike in it. The added 'utility" probably makes it even less useful than a regular SUV version. Also, if he buys a used pickup for cheap isn't it already depreciated? It's all academic anyway, he already knows what he's gonna get, and so do we.

It's really funny how peoples' vehicle choices evolke such adamant and emotional fury. The underlying theme of the thread is how abominable and selfish it is to travel in a vehicle that is (or might be?) beyond one's basic needs cause it sucks up scarce resources and damages the environment a little bit more. Doing it just cause they perfer to go bigger, comfort reasons, just in case needs, etc..

But, far fewer people make a stink out of people going over the top regarding other choices of appliances or housing that are beyond one's basic needs.

Nobody except legally blind people need a television that is over 20". Nobody needs surround sound, much less 100 watts per channel rear with a 200 watt subwoofer. Those things also increase your CO2 footprint. I live with three other people in a 4 room house. We have neighbors that have 7 or 8 under a smaller roof. But nobody would lash out at me if I was able to occupy a home with 4 bedrooms (a spare for an office that I'd use maybe one day a week) or even 5 bedrooms! There's an Epic thread in the lounge about someone settig up a home theater and asking for feedback. Not once did someone say go smaller, you're killing the planet. On the contraty it was all :
I could go on all day -we have for weeks now! LOL! Folks have pleasure boats and dirt bikes and on and on. But when someone wants to drive that excess wheelbase and cubic inch engine down the street that is somehow different. I can't stop laughing. This thread rules! This has turned into the REAL Ultimate Thread Killer Thread:

Wheels schmeels!
Come on Richie, get something with a little oomph in it! Here's one for you:
2004 Lingenfelter Chev. Suburban 8.1 liter Supercharged
Engine dyno tested at
520 Horsepower
739 Lbs ft of torque

Chassis dyno tested at
416 rear wheel horsepower
546 Lbs ft of rear wheel torque
Lingenfelter 8.1 L Whipple Supercharged engine
Green exterior
Beige leather interior

Mileage: 42,000
4 wheel drive
Automatic transmission
DVD Entertainment system remote head phones

This is a one off truck that LPE built when
this truck had only 379 miles on it in March 2004
To reproduce this truck and engine package would be $44,000.00 +

Excellent price at only $35,995.00
http://www.lingenfelter.com/2004suburban81lscic.htm

Bear: I drive my Subaru 600 miles round trip THIRTY times each winter to ski!

Bears: Yeah!!!!

Bear: I fly to UTAH every other weekend!

Bears: Yeah!!!! Way to go!!!

Bear: I skied 26 different areas last year, on 3 continents!!!

Bears: YEAH!!! YOU'RE MY HERO!!!

RR: I used up 120 gallons of gas driving my Yukon to Vermont last season.

Bears: BOOOOOO!!!! You evil, EVIL man.

Harry M Bear:
EcoBears:
Back to the biking forum:

Doesn't anyone enjoy driving anymore? I know with freeways jammed and gas at $4/gal.... but I've always driven the smallest thing that will get the job done because small cars handle better = more fun to drive. I know these big SUVs are plush and quiet but I don't want to stuff my living room into a tight corner at 60 mph. Sure a monster motor makes all that size get up and go but I prefer something that will turn and brake as well. Muscle cars came and went with that era of cheap gas so I guess will this current crop.

Fixed it for you.

On the other end of the spectrum:
This is the euro smart car, not the us remade one. Available in US, has a 61hp turbo engine.
Cute! Total hit in the Hamptons for a little while...
Maybe tow this behind the Suburban.
http://www.ecoautoinc.com/smart.php