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post #361 of 578
crgildart well you were just over the hill. I lived in Oyster Bay for 30 years
and know exactly what you speak of, but Merrick is totally a horse of
a different colour.
post #362 of 578
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I need to get me one of them there ski carrying permits or else the ski police might get me for carrying a full quiver when I go a travelin'.
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Originally Posted by Tomcat View Post
crgildart well you were just over the hill. I lived in Oyster Bay for 30 years
and know exactly what you speak of, but Merrick is totally a horse of
a different colour.
Tom, I wont argue that...the realtor even warned us that this area, deep South Merrick, is like a spectacle of one-upmanship. But that is not why I need the big SUV, if anything I would be looking into getting a new SL500 or even a used Ferrari if that was my goal was to show off.
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RR I understand in South Merrick the Escalade is just status quo
post #365 of 578
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R-R would have been skewered about 50 times by now on TGR. He should try Alpinezone where they'd be awestruck since he skiis the awesome big hills like Hunter, Okemo and Flatton. But then the competition's pretty stiff in the dweeb dept there.-snowfun3
Let's see you must not be reading this. We're well over 300 posts and I'd say he's been skewered well over 50 times by now.

Note: Okemo's no steeper than Stratton. I guess richie-rich ought to save his money on the vehicle and use it to fly west once a month for some real mountains. That'll make people scream about his carbon footprint.

Note the average gas powered lawnmower puts out way more pollutants than a modern car. The manufacturers are fighting the imposition of pollution controls though.

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Doubt that. Not sure the Mags would waste 11 pages on this. Just another typical Epic thread. -Ullr
No offense to the Mags, but a good percentage don't have licenses, and well, girlfriends... I'm not sure 22 pages on a douche-bag that ripped someone off is something to be proud about. Not that there's anything to be proud about in this thread...:
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We took four kayaks, four bikes, a dog crate, fishing gear, two weeks worth of clothes, camping gear (slp bags, tent, cooking stuff, a cooler of food and beer), all in/on a Honda Odyssey. -billyymc
Did the mattress fall off?
Frankly, if I saw an Odyssey with all that stuff on it I'd stay at least a half mile back if I couldn't pass it quickly. I hope you got into the Honda hall of fame...

The Suburu Forester.
Yeah I just looked...17 page brochure and not one spec on interior cargo volume. Talk about a waste of paper for a vehicle that probably used to come with a flannel shirt. Plus really, no one driving a Forester needs 170 hp. They're really no different than anyone else here overpowering the vehicles.
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Go look at the EPA estimates for a Yukon and a Forester. The range for a Yukon is 12-14 City, 18-20 Hwy. A Forester is 18-20 City, 23-27 Hwy. If you compare the low end of each of those scales, the Yukon gets 22-33% less mpg. If you compare the high end, it gets 26-30% less mpg. -billyymc
Well your low end math is a little off there...
Considering that the Yukon practically probably holds 100% more stuff, richie's coming out on top in this analogy. I suppose he could get two Suburus with two flannel shirts and they could drive up I-91 blowing kisses to each other.
Oh right, I forgot he could strap all that stuff to the roof...
post #366 of 578
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
Apples and oranges

Nice try, JONG!
post #367 of 578
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Originally Posted by Tomcat View Post
crgildart well you were just over the hill. I lived in Oyster Bay for 30 years
and know exactly what you speak of, but Merrick is totally a horse of
a different colour.
Right, but the Merrick horse is two shades closer to that than the Hamptons or Montauk horse is.

Do you miss LI? Me either!

Did I mention that this thread is awwwwsuuuummmm!
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post #368 of 578
crgildart... I guess its a south shore thing
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crgildart... I guess its a south shore thing
Tom I think we do owe it to the other Bears that haven't had that LI experience to illustrate just what the typical sense of entitiement is out that way.

For example, on Long Island your garbage man expects you to give them a Christmas bonus. And, I'm not talking about a gift card to McDonalds. If there is anything less than $100.00 (1988 figures) in an envelope taped to your trash can the day after Christmas, you'll be lucky to have your trash picked up before Easter.:

Also, if you don't have a nice boat, most people that do won't be seen with you-anywhere, not just on the water. When you get one, nobody that has a bigger one will be seen with you, etc..
post #370 of 578
crgildart failed to mention above that most people believe that class is something that can be purchased.
post #371 of 578
[quote=Tog;911022]Let's see you must not be reading this. We're well over 300 posts and I'd say he's been skewered well over 50 times by now.

We were talking about TGR, not here - who's not reading?

Note: Okemo's no steeper than Stratton. I guess richie-rich ought to save his money on the vehicle and use it to fly west once a month for some real mountains. That'll make people scream about his carbon footprint.

Putting steep in any sentence with Okemo or Stratton is laughable. The point was needing a vehicle to transport 3 pairs of skis for all those awesome challanging alpine conditions seems a bit much (just a bit).

No offense to the Mags, but a good percentage don't have licenses, and well, girlfriends... I'm not sure 22 pages on a douche-bag that ripped someone off is something to be proud about. Not that there's anything to be proud about in this thread...:

And if someone got ripped off on gearswap here, the response would be - err, probably nothing, right? I think it is a first class statement that they took it so seriously. Hopefully if you get ripped off, someone would be concerned as they were. Just sayin.....

We're at 13 pages of some guy trying to justify a gas guzzler for some pretty pathetic reasons. Seems to be the 22 pages over there were time better spent.
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post #372 of 578
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Frankly, if I saw an Odyssey with all that stuff on it I'd stay at least a half mile back if I couldn't pass it quickly.
Why? Are you assuming everyone is inept at securing things to the top of a vehicle? Thats nothing compared to six whitewater kayaks on a Subaru GL...of course that was a couple years back, and was only to run shuttle and give a ride to a couple other boaters on a few miles of steep dirt roads. Dang...if I'd had a big SUV they could've rode inside with their boats.

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Originally Posted by Tog View Post
Considering that the Yukon practically probably holds 100% more stuff, richie's coming out on top in this analogy. I suppose he could get two Suburus with two flannel shirts and they could drive up I-91 blowing kisses to each other.
Oh right, I forgot he could strap all that stuff to the roof...
My math was right...but again, maths be hard for some folks, so don't sweat it. But if you want, I'll give you THREE shiny quarters for every one of those dirty old paper dollars you have. 3 to 1 Tog...good deal.

Tog, you, like Richie, miss the points. He and Paris could get to VT with a few pairs of skis and a weeks worth of clothes packed in a Forester without an issue. (Well, the skis would have to go on top...but they make these nifty little racks for that, and if you're anal about your skis being exposed to...umm...snow, or melted snow, get an aerodynamimc rooftop box) THere'd be no need to take two cars if the two of them could travel like...well...like most people do. It's the fact that they NEED to take...whatever the heck could fill their Yukon with only two people in it...that's being called out here. Then, the other 99% of their driving back home in LI, mostly with one or sometimes two people in the car, they wouldnt' be hauling around an extra couple of tons of metal and rubber. Pretty simple really.

I have no issues with people driving to ski. I have no issues with people flying to ski -- I do it. I have less issues with people who have two or three kids and/or a boat or camper owning a big SUV....since they do need the space and/or towing ability.

I have issues with Rich saying he NEEDS a Yukon to haul himself and Paris and their patagucci outfits to Vermont. Oh, and once or twice a year get something large from Home Depot. Get a Yukon if you want to be seen in one, but don't delude yourself into believing that you NEED one.
post #373 of 578
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post
Note: Okemo's no steeper than Stratton.
they both suck. i've never skied Stratton.


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No offense to the Mags, but a good percentage don't have licenses, and well, girlfriends...
I don't have a license or a girlfriend


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I'm not sure 22 pages
69 pages and counting
post #374 of 578
Imagine someone on Epic buying something they don't actually need:

Ever look at the quiver thread?

post #375 of 578
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
Imagine someone on Epic buying something they don't actually need:

Ever look at the quiver thread?

LOL....I resemble that statement!
post #376 of 578
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
And if someone got ripped off on gearswap here, the response would be - err, probably nothing, right? I think it is a first class statement that they took it so seriously. Hopefully if you get ripped off, someone would be concerned as they were. Just sayin.....

We're at 13 pages of some guy trying to justify a gas guzzler for some pretty pathetic reasons. Seems to be the 22 pages over there were time better spent.
Well said. Now here is something we can agree on!
post #377 of 578
Please remember that personal attacks and insults are in violation of the terms and conditions at EpicSki. You may disagree with other members and are welcome to argue and debate, and perhaps enjoy the humor of the situation; but there is a line that can be crossed, and several of you have crossed it.

Several posts in violation of terms were deleted. If you feel so passionate about big vehicles and other's lifestyles that you can't keep a sense of humor, I strongly recommend that you ignore this thread. This kind of banter is more suited to the Lounge. If you need an outlet for the summer, membership has its privileges.
post #378 of 578
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Snofun3,
Can’t please all of the people all of the time. I am sure every single one of us has something in our lives that others would find apprehensible, unjustifiable, and outright outlandish. If mine is that I will be driving around in one of the most sold vehicles in the USA....then I think I will alright
post #379 of 578
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Thanks Cirquerider
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We're at 13 pages of some guy trying to justify a gas guzzler for some pretty pathetic reasons. Seems to be the 22 pages over there were time better spent. -snofun3
No, we're at 13 pages of self-righteous arguing. Sure, there's many valid points here but let's face it, both threads are not "time well spent" especially if you're trying to save the planet.

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Why? Are you assuming everyone is inept at securing things to the top of a vehicle? -billyymc
Yes. Thus the mattress comment.
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My math was right...but again, maths be hard for some folks, so don't sweat it. -billyymc
Well, let's see:
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Originally Posted by billyymc View Post
Go look at the EPA estimates for a Yukon and a Forester. The range for a Yukon is 12-14 City, 18-20 Hwy. A Forester is 18-20 City, 23-27 Hwy. If you compare the low end of each of those scales, the Yukon gets 22-33% less mpg. If you compare the high end, it gets 26-30% less mpg.

The maths are hard, isn't they?
So the low end mpg range: 12 versus 18 : uh...that's 50% Since the Yukon is still around 100% more storage he's still up compared to getting 2 Suburus. Yes, the maths are hard.

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The part about needing to take 3 pairs of skis for Flaaton and Okemo was where the bile started to rise for me. -snofun3
Well the race kids have five to six pairs, and yes they race on both of those flat mountains. There's people here who have 7 pairs to ski 500 ft. vertical mountains. I don't think the skis are a problem here, they could fit on the roof a lot easier than four kayaks and a mattress.

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(Okemo and Stratton) ...they both suck. i've never skied Stratton. -Aquaman
Not much choice here within the same radius of Long Island. What would you suggest? Windham? Belleayre? Magic? (rarely open, unreliable) or Hunter where half the people don't even make it on the slopes? Right, there's K-town... Rich how about that? At least you could see Snoop Dog in concert there.
post #381 of 578
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So the low end mpg range: 12 versus 18 : uh...that's 50% Since the Yukon is still around 100% more storage he's still up compared to getting 2 Suburus. Yes, the maths are hard.
I think what I said was....how much LESS the Yukon gets than the Forester, not how much more the Subbie gets than the Yukon. Maths is hard, so is reading comprehenshun. Which is why this thread has gone on so long.

I didn't realize it was so sensitive around here.
post #382 of 578
ok, again:
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Go look at the EPA estimates for a Yukon and a Forester. The range for a Yukon is 12-14 City, 18-20 Hwy. A Forester is 18-20 City, 23-27 Hwy. If you compare the low end of each of those scales, the Yukon gets 22-33% less mpg. If you compare the high end, it gets 26-30% less mpg. -billyymc
Not sure about the sensitivity or reading comprehension skills you refer to, yours? I'm just trying to be accurate with the hard maths. Do we really need to drag Acrophobia in here to referee with her math skills?

I get 43 -50% less here.
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Maths is hard, so is reading comprehenshun. -billyymc
Indeed.
post #383 of 578
Lemme see here, putting on analyst's hat:
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Worst case city:
12/18=.666666----------
1-.66=.34
In other words, the Yukon gets 66% of the Subies MPG so the Subie gets 44% more MPG worst case for both in the city.

Best case HWY (where most long ski trip driving occurs)
20/27=.74
1-.74=.26
In other words the Yukon gets 74% of the Subie's HWY MPG best case scenerio for both vehicles so the Subie gets 26% better MPG HWY best conditions. I'd go with the latter figure for ski trip comparisons

OK, now lets tie all RR's crap on top of the Subie and then run the compares:
post #384 of 578
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Could be, but I doubt it. I have a pretty good idea what RR is like, and I have a pretty good idea what Samuri is like. Neither one is going to change the world. RR becuase he doesn't want/care to, and Samuri because he can't communicate without offending people who have different points of view than he does.

This is internet anonymity. You're mistaken if you think I would talk this way to anyone's face... especially RR. The guy could knock me over by spitting at me. I also know RR is laughing this whole thing up. We all are. Here are some smilies to remind the world of the game we're playing... :

Now, smilies aside and games aside... I actually am on a mission to influence the world. I wake up every day with those ambitions. EpicSki is just my 20 minutes of fun out of a daily 14 hour work day. It's like virtual boxing with guys that are bigger than you so you can get your energy back and go back to the work that is actaully important.
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Lemme see here, putting on analyst's hat:
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Worst case city:
12/18=.666666----------
1-.66=.34
In other words, the Yukon gets 66% of the Subies MPG so the Subie gets 44% more MPG worst case for both in the city.
You know, my initial good judgement warns me not to do this. But this IS a thread of epic LOL-tasticness, so I just can't resist.

Consider two vehicles, one 12 mpg (Yukon), the other 18 mpg (Subaru). They've got to drive 180 miles to go skiing. How much gas will be required for this expedition?

Yukon: 180 miles x 1G/12 miles = 15 gallons

Subaru: 180 miles x 1G/18 miles = 10 gallons

The Yukon requires 1.5 x more gas than the Subaru. Flipped around, the Subaru requires 10/15 the amount of gas a Yukon would, i.e. 2/3. Obviously the above is true for any given trip length.

To recap: The Yukon's fuel consumption is 150% of the Subie's.
The Subie's is 66.7% of the Yukon's.

SO EVERYBODY EXCEPT ME IS WRONG! AHAHAHAHA!

I must now return to my plans for world domination. Or bikeforum.net.
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You know, my initial good judgement warns me not to do this. But this IS a thread of epic LOL-tasticness, so I just can't resist.

Consider two vehicles, one 12 mpg (Yukon), the other 18 mpg (Subaru). They've got to drive 180 miles to go skiing. How much gas will be required for this expedition?

Yukon: 180 miles x 1G/12 miles = 15 gallons

Subaru: 180 miles x 1G/18 miles = 10 gallons

The Yukon requires 1.5 x more gas than the Subaru. Flipped around, the Subaru requires 10/15 the amount of gas a Yukon would, i.e. 2/3. Obviously the above is true for any given trip length.

To recap: The Yukon's fuel consumption is 150% of the Subie's.
The Subie's is 66.7% of the Yukon's.

SO EVERYBODY EXCEPT ME IS WRONG! AHAHAHAHA!

I must now return to my plans for world domination. Or bikeforum.net.
Moral of story, Subie goes 35% farther on X gallons of gas.

That's why the Yukon has a 10,000,000 gallon tank
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Moral of story, Subie goes 35% farther on X gallons of gas.

That's why the Yukon has a 10,000,000 gallon tank
The posts in this thread are 71.335% pointless. My own most definitely included.

We need more threads like this one:

Handbags at Dawn.

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This thread is awwwwwwsummmmmmmm!
+1 :
post #389 of 578
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The posts in this thread are 71.335% pointless. My own most definitely included.

We need more threads like this one:

Handbags at Dawn.

I think the calling out thread would have been a lot more fun and successful if it happened before Bumphest. RR's a tough act to follow cause he's the real deal. Bumpfeaq's glued to the NBA right now....

Cheers;

Maths is hard
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I think the calling out thread would have been a lot more fun and successful if it happened before Bumphest. RR's a tough act to follow cause he's the real deal. Bumpfeaq's glued to the NBA right now....
Hey, I thought it was fun and successful. I LOLed.

...

Okay, so y'all only got 450-odd page views. And the TGR IS DOWN WHAT SHALL WE DOOOOOO whinge thread got 5700. But you know, it's quality not quantity that matters. You had some excellent humor going. You really did. I laughed, I cried, I...

...nah, you're right. Teh RR pwned you.
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