Originally Posted by DoWork
um... you think they're REALLY the sole cause of climate change?
The truth is that the environmental impact form an SUV is actually relatively small, and the pre '00 cars with V8s that are poorly tuned are belching out far more pollutants, and I didn't hear anyone talking trash to the guy with the Caprice doing 100.
The car itself is far less damaging than the process to make it- every piece of a car that comes from the far east has essentially come from a smoke-belching, toxic waste-dumping abomination of environmental concern. The car or SUV itself would take decades to turn out the damage done in one afternoon by the process it takes to make one. From mining iron ore or recycling materials (from ships?!) to refining, to casting, to shipping, it all kills the planet. How do you think your car or all the parts to make it got here from China? A big ass boat floated 'em over here, which *gasp* polluted like a mofo on its way. How about Hybrids? Do you know what is going to happen to those huge Nickel batteries when the car dies? You probably never looked into it, so do you REALLY care? If you REALLY cared, you wouldn't buy a car at all- you'd get a mountain bike. Subaru is the only auto plant with 0-landfill waste, so buy a Subaru if you care. So stop hugging the tree so hard you can't see the guy behind you cutting 'em down! It honestly pisses me off to hear people act like you have to justify your purchases to someone else. SUVs are excessive, but then who are you? They're not illegal, bro and if you think buying a Prius is going to save this planet, sorry to rain on your parade. It's not.
I recycle everything, I drive a motorcycle in the summer and my Jeep sips gas in the winter. I pick up trash when I see it in the woods or on the street. I consider myself a middle-of-the-road green guy. I care, but also know I have no right to berate someone for wanting or having a big vehicle. SUVs aren't helping, but they are not the problem we should be concentrating out hate on, either.
Um, I don't see anyone assigning blame to SUV's as the sole cause of bad things, but it's a contributor that "enlightened people" should know (at least) a little better.
Take all your analogies and "logic"- all this bad stuff coming here from all these heathens - well, if the vehicle was half the size, only half as much would be used
and brought in from all those nasty sources - yes?. And that ship - well it uses HFO (heavy fuel) that is useless for virtually any other purpose, and btw, it's CO2 emissions are about 1/400th, of those "nicer" means of transport, like planes.
And the fuel that you're using in this beast - well, ummm, that comes in your great ship polluter too, and if you only need to use half as much to get to your destination, well......
It's all about setting an example (or not), and not using more than your reasonable share of scarce resources to stroke your "cool" factor. To use your points, everything contributes to bad stuff entering the environment, and when you have to get some beheamoth to deal with your insecurities, all of the aspects of the manufacturing process contribute to making the choice even less savory.