Originally Posted by oisin
One caveat here:
I have a Wrangler 4 cylinder, gets about 19-20 mpg. While they are great for motoring out of your unplowed driveway or negotiating difficult conditions at low speed in 4wd, they can be very strange, even treacherous, to drive at highway speeds in a snowstorm. Perhaps the new longer wheelbase models may have fixed this but the combination of high center of gravity, short wheelbase, primitive suspension cause them to spin out very easily and the spins are just about impossible to recover from. They are a lot of fun and pretty good in snow but you really don't want to have it in 4wd much over 45mph. I've had pickup trucks with a similar setup that behave nothing like this and so I've concluded it is due to the very short whelbase. They are huge fun otherwise.
Dude, they definately don't drive themselves
... I let one of my buddies drive it once, and he was like "man, I don't like it- you have to really pay attention all the time!"
... Which would explain why many don't like them. I have a 4.0 w/ a 5spd, and have never had a problem with anything, and yeah if you're a jackass it'd be really easy to crash the thing, cuz it has just about the tightest turning radius out there which can get touchy on the highway- no text messaging, bit***s! As for driving in snowstorms, I've been in many and never had a problem, highway or backroads, trail or unbeaten path...
Yes, you're right- 4WD is a great way to get your jeep really, REALLY stuck but that's what they make winches for! If you're going to go in a place like that, you'd better be prepared for the inevitable, cuz it's GOING TO HAPPEN. 4WD isn't a magic wand, it's a tool. Use it properly and it'll reward you. Misuse it or ask too much and suffer the consequences.
I've seen many crashed, too. Hell, I've been rear-ended by one once. They are twitchy, the brakes like to lock up when they're cold and wet, and they're loud as hell. If you aren't a good driver, you very well may crash it. But everyone I know who has one loves the damn thing, including me
! I bought it to flip and make money but ended up keeping it just cuz it was so much fun. Is it for everyone? No. Is it for me? Yes!
Minimalism and functionality to a T. Honestly the biggest gripe I have with the thing is that it's so damn easy to break into- a real problem when you live in a city teeming with low-lives.
And yes, the Wrangler Rubicon IS the best offroad vehicle currently available (electronic sway bar disconnects, auto-lockers, and Dana 44s, etc...) and the only thing the H1 beats it in is the wall-scaling test and the vertical climb... And I've never had to drive over a 3 foot wall or climb a 60% grade, personally.
My fav vehicle ever, tho? 1991 Subaru Legacy. Toughest damn vehicle ever made. I have a pic on my fridge of the thing completely airborne, which apparently it loved.