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Bindings - What to look for?

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
I'm looking for some new bindings to add to some 07/08 Volkl Gotamas. I am also thinking of getting some Salomon Impact 10/Pro's as well (providing they fit comfortably).

I'm not entirely sure what bindings would be best to pair with these skis.

I am 6'2" 185lb, level 7-8 skier. I'm looking for some good off-piste action. I never venture into the parks.

Bindings I have been looking at include:

- Marker Jester
- Marker Griffon
- Look Px 12 Ti
- Head Mojo 15
- Rossignol Axial

Any suggestions, or factors to consider?

Thanks
post #2 of 10
Hey man, good luck on an answer! You can see my same question under "Ski Gear" listed as Binding Suggestions? Got one reply with lots of folks looking....You would think with all the experts that are looking at this forum that you would get some great opinions! But I think it must be a redundant question. So any of you "experts" who would like to give us an answer just one more time, please feel free to express yourselfs....
post #3 of 10
I am not in the business, but FWIW I think I once read (here somewhere) that the Look/Rossi bindings had a shorter mounting position from toe to heel and therefore would create less of a flat spot when mounting them directly to a ski versus on top off a plate.

I also owe a debt of gratitude to my own Rossi Axials for saving my knee this season during the classic treacherous slow twisting inside fall (day-dreaming in mashed potatoes).

I have no experience or opinion on the others.
post #4 of 10
I have skis with both Axials and Salomon (Sth). I haven't had problems with either. I have skied system skis with bindings that are comparable to the Griffon/Jester (a 2009 Volkl Grizzly) and they were great as well. If binding weight is a considertion for you, give some thought to the Salomon Sth bindings. My assumption is that you are going to use the Gotamas in deeper snow conditions, so here are a couple of thoughts based on my personal experiences (YMMV):

1. The Rossi/Look bindings have more elastic travel in the heel, so they tend to be good in conditions where a release is not desired (really steep situations, for example). However, I find them more difficult to step into, so when they do release, then they are more difficult to manage.

2. My Salomon Sth bindings seem to release more predictably and they are easy to step into. Even though I ski aggressively, they do not prerelease on me. I have Sth 12 bindings on my Gotamas - they have been great.

For what it's worth, I tend to think of binding preference as being similar to car preference - some people have a passionate loyalty to one type or the other. Aside from the legendary Marker pre-release issues (which I have not encountered myself, despite skiing Nordica Afterburners at the same din as my other skis; the Jester, Duke and similar Markers are quite different btw), I tend to think of them as being a matter of preference.
post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the great responses.

The more I look at it, I think I am really considering the marker jester/griffon and the Look PX 12 Ti

Just not sure which one is better/best for me... maybe there is no great difference.
post #6 of 10
None of these bindings are something I have personal experience with (although I have owned mostly Marker bindings and a couple pairs of Salomon). As Alberto pointed out, it comes down to personal preference on bindings. (I like Markers.)

Things to consider: brake width, weight, ease of entry/use, safety (or the perception of safety, there are no hard facts as to which ones are safer), durability/maintenance, cost, and what ends up deciding it for most people...subjective preference.

Two of the bindings you mention: Jester and Griffon, it is a decision between cost, and lighter weight vs durability. Is having a heavier gauge spring more important to you than having a light ski?

A check of specs showed that the Jester has a brake width of 90 mm. Can all of these bindings be mounted on a Gotama (105 mm waist)?
post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
As for the Jester, I don't think I need a DIN of 16, it is a little overkill for me.

I think for many of the bindings I can get wide brakes to replace the stock ones, if they don't already accommodate the Goat's midsection
post #8 of 10
You can't go wrong with any of the bindings on your list. The Tyrolia Mojo 15 is a personal favorite of mine, they release cleanly, retention is excellent and they are reasonably light. The Look/ Rossi bindings are legendary for their elastic travel (meaning they are less likely to pre-release) personally I like the 'race' version of these bindings i.e. PX15, the Marker Jester/ Griffon is very similar in design to the Look heel, they are super light and work well. They also transfer energy to the ski remarkably well due to a wide base.
post #9 of 10
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As for the Jester, I don't think I need a DIN of 16, it is a little overkill for me.
Good point. That is one thing meant to mention--one of the most important--is to be somewhere near the middle of the binding's DIN range. A spring needs to be sufficiently loaded to work accurately, and if you are too high on a spring, it doesn't give you the dynamic range you need. (I think this is why some people have had problems with Marker pre-release. I have only had it on one binding, the MRR, and it was a binding I had no business skiing at my weight. That said, I bent the rails.)


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I think for many of the bindings I can get wide brakes to replace the stock ones, if they don't already accommodate the Goat's midsection
Okay, as long as you are aware of it.
post #10 of 10
Dont get the 12ti.....they will shake apart eventually, even though you dont need the DIN get the PX15tis and those are really bomber.
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