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Stocklis: Scott Schmidts vs DP Pros

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I have a question about the Scott Schmidts and DP Pros. I am 6'1" and 175 pounds. I figure I'm a level 8 skier and I get 50 or 60 days in a season, at Alta and Snowbird. I mostly use traditional technique. I currently ski the Stormrider XLs in a 184 and really love them except when it gets deep, but even then they're better than the other skis I've tried. I want a ski for when there is over a foot of powder. Something I can take into Greeley Bowl, under the Collins chair or down Sidewinder or Stonecrusher. This year I tried the Watea 94s (so so), Scott Mission (didn't like, too light/soft) and Atomic Snoop Daddys (okay), but was unable to find a pair of DP Pros to demo and could only demo the Scott Schmidts in the 178. I enjoyed them very much and thought that they were a fun ski. I took them through the trees and down some of the chutes off Supreme lift and was able to make quick turns. I just felt that they were too short and would not be as good in some of the bowls if there was over a foot of powder. I had really wanted to try the 193 DP Pros, but no luck. I've got a few questions. First, is there a significant difference in how the Scott Schmidts ski in the 188 versus the 178? How do these compare to the DP Pros? Any recommendations on the Stocklis or on other skis? What about the Elan 888 or 999? BTW, today was one of the best days of the season with knee to waist deep powder in places under the Collins chair, on North Rustler and on Stonecrusher.
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I just bought the SSs in 188 but haven't skied them yet. My impression is that they're a bit stiff to be a good powder ski, as well as a bit too narrow. I'm told that the DPs have a better shape and flex for softer snow.

Here's a good review of the DP, with some info about the Schmidts: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=54827
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Oh...those DP's are a pretty ski. I have only flexed them in the store though and was surprised by the relative softness of the tip and tail.

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The SS Pro, with the extra sidecut will probably ski softer than the DP with it's nearly 30m+ radius. I think the SS is probably more user friendly and more versatile, but if you are looking for an off-piste ski, the DP is probably the way to go. If I lived out west I would consider the SS Pro as a good all-round ski. Id on't think you will find the DP more forgiving because of it's radius, but the tip seems soft compared to a ski that is at home on groomers 100% of time time. This feature however, really enhances it's soft snow performance. -HeluvaSkier
Heluva does great reviews he demos a lot of skis and I've bought skis untested based on his reviews.

I will tell you this: Lone Mountain Sports in Big Sky, MT had the DP's on half price sale (was there Sunday 4/6). Oh it was tempting. If I hadn't just done esa I probably would have bought them. (even after spending all week ranting about fat skis)
post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks for pointing me to the review. I think I'm going to go for the 193 DP Pro. I'll let you know (next season) how it turns out.
post #5 of 9
get the DP pro its a much better ski for those 2 mountains.
post #6 of 9
Zman,
Just saw this: Denver Wholesale 193cm 06/07 DP Pro 540$

http://stores.ebay.com/Denver-Wholes...QQftidZ2QQtZkm
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post
Oh...those DP's are a pretty ski. I have only flexed them in the store though and was surprised by the relative softness of the tip and tail.
Am I the only one who doesn't think Stocklis ski the way they flex. I've found that most Stocklis ski a great deal stiffer than the way they feel when flexed. Example: The Snake Coral seems pretty soft but skis like a fairly stiff ski. It felt pretty noodly but rocks on the slopes. Similar findings with several other Stocklis so I've kinda given up on trying to figure out how Stocklis ski based on their flex. JMHO.
post #8 of 9
If you look at the flex curves, or just watch the tips while you ski, you'll see that they vibrate like crazy; Stocklis tend to have relatively soft tips and tails, get very stiff in a hurry. The soft ends soak up jolts, which is one reason Stocklis are so smooth, and the tails release progressively, without that blast of stiff tail energy that some makers think we all need. But Stocklis take a fair amount of weight and/or speed to bend outside their innate radius.
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TOG--thanks.
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