Originally Posted by narc
I have only skied the mentron 9 and they were okey but not great. They felt slow edge to edge, a bit floppy and edge hold wan't that great. I don't know anything about where it fits in the range so perhaps it is a low end metron and the others (B5 etc.) are better.
They felt nothing like a slalom ski.
The M9 was the lower model in the line and the least like a true high end "race stock" built ski (racing or otherwise). I have no idea what size you skied, but I'll guess it was too short for you. It may also have been tuned badly.
You are correct that they may feel slow edge to edge, especially compared to a rec slalom with a moderately low lift. Both lift and width (and to a certain extent, mass) have an effect on how fast a ski is "edge to edge" (not talking about overall quickness). A flat mounted 85mm waist ski with light bindings can feel as quick edge to edge as a 70mm waist ski with a tall lift, or a 65mm WC race stock slalom with a burly plate and heavy race bindings. Thus, a ~75mm metron with high lift and heavy neox bindings will certainly feel somewhat slower edge to edge than some skis, but still somewhat close to a true racing SL setup. Really. They would still feel slightly slower edge to edge than a consumer (atomic sl11) or rec slalom (atomic sl9, extremely fast)....but compareable to a race stock setup.
As for the ski itself, the higher end models are stiffer and would have more of the longitudinal and torsional stiffness compareable to a consumer slalom ski, and this can contribute to the feeling of "quickness" when carving short turns.
Personally, I've never found any real race ski to feel particularly "quick", even SL's. Fast, stable freight trains is what they are. Rec slaloms, however are typically this quickest skis on the market, and that can make them very fun.
Hopefully that explains a bit better.
On a side note, yesterday I was skiing my 200cm Nordica Ultrawave MF's (late 90's midfat, light gs sandwich construction, 74mm waist with a ~30m+ sidecut) with flat mounted salomon 957 composites (yes, the ones from the late 80's-early 90's. Nice old school setup. Very quick edge to edge, a relatively light weight setup overall, and a lighter/livelier feeling construction....however, due to their length (fairly high swing weight), straightish sidecut and VERY high stiffness by modern standards they really couldn't be called "quick". Certainly a ski of severe contrasts. Lots of fun when I want to kick it old school and about as close as I would want to come to a traditional ski these days.