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post #31 of 59
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I am definitely not surprised, as a couple of years ago on epic I was the target of a *bad ski parenting* attack. (Mostly by some non-parents who had no idea what they were talking about, no real interest in my kid's welfare, and a whole lot of desire to stir a stinky pot full of doo-doo.)
HAHAHA yep, reminds of the post about kids on ski race teams, which quickly spiraled into the fact that any parent who spends $300 on a baseball bat is crazy and their kids are spoiled brats, because when they were kids their parents didn't spend that much money on baseball equipment. My take was (even though my son does not play baseball, nor does he even own a bat), was that some people may think that $300 for a pair of ski's for a kid is crazy, so to each his own.

Of course, I was wrong, and I am a bad parent!
post #32 of 59
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Originally Posted by mollmeister View Post
It's another thing entirely to discuss old men suing little kids and scary sightings of babies in backpacks. Those are *generic* topics, not directly connected to the life of someone in our community, someone who has asked for support.
Actually, the baby in the backpack issue came up when one of the members posted a picture of himself on top of a mountain with his child in a backpack, while he was skiing. Many accused him of child abuse, or at least endagering the welfare.

Please see post #32

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...kpack&pa ge=2

Stupid and careless were the words used regarding the guy who only wanted to post a picture of his 11 month old daughters 1st day on the mountian!

Again, this is Epic, it is what I expect.
post #33 of 59
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Originally Posted by bumpdad View Post
Classic that she threw up in radiology. : Did she hit anybody with her vomit?

I have been reading this thread and I like your approach Marge. I also like Newfy and Moll's posts.

As you are undoubtedly aware, new paradigm in ear infections: tylenol or other analgesic and no antibiotics unless very severe. Mostly viral with occ secondary bacterial infection.

Keep her positive in regards to her skiing and doing bumps next year!
Thank goodness she didn't hit anyone. She even made it to the garbage can. Poor kid was just pointing to her mouth making noises. At first I said, "What?" then, "Are you going to throw up?????" :

She's feeling much better after some motrin and Rondec (the drug of champions I believe). Now will be just trying to "keep her off it" as he requested. : Good luck with that one. She's already getting stir crazy.

Thanks again everyone!
post #34 of 59
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Originally Posted by bumpdad View Post
Classic that she threw up in radiology. : Did she hit anybody with her vomit?
The proper emoticon to use with this comment is >

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Keep her positive in regards to her skiing and doing bumps next year!
And this^^^^^^ is the answer to marge's original question.
She'll probably bounce back and get her mojo for skiing next year!
post #35 of 59
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The proper emoticon to use with this comment is >
Where's the LMAO smilie??!
post #36 of 59
If you go to the [more] option where the smilies are located, you will find a plethora of emoticons for your many faces of emotion!
Including LMAO, Hissyfit, Hoppin mad, just talk, beating a dead horse, snowfall, and the ever popular Useless without pics!!



Don't forget the BS and Irony meters!
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Where's the LMAO smilie??!
post #37 of 59
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and the ever popular Useless without pics!!
Wrong forum.......................................
post #38 of 59
[quote=Trekchick;893021]The proper emoticon to use with this comment is >


Couldn't find the vomiting emoticon even when I clicked on more. I really like that one
post #39 of 59
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The proper emoticon to use with this comment is >


Couldn't find the vomiting emoticon even when I clicked on more. I really like that one
OOOf, I guess I stole that one from Alpine Zone

Here is the image location, which you can put in the img tags.
http://forums.alpinezone.com/images/.../icon_puke.gif
post #40 of 59
Marge---you are the mom...you sound like an intelligent person. You know best. You did good.


None of my childern have had issues like this, yet. I am sure they will. That said...I have had lots of kids I teach get into accidents. It is very hard to judge if they are looking for attention, tired of skiing, injured bad, injured slightly or just scared..or some of the all.

This season I had a 7 yr old boy...went off a jump landed bad. Cried a bit..it was lunch we went in. His dad said that if he could not walk a straight line after lunch (he was limping) he had to go home. He really wanted ski with me (and the group of ski dawgs) in the afternoon. He skied very well in the afternoon. That night mom said things were great. In the morning--his knee was swollen the size of a football!!!!!and black and blue. No symptom the day or eve before. He skied with me the next Saturday...did very well until he hit very deep wet snow and took a fall. He took a ride down in the sled. That was his last run of the year... our mountain closed a week later. He told me he would be back next year. I tried to make things happy for him by telling him all the great stories he could tell this summer and for years to come...riding the patrol sled. It made him smile. I fully believe he will be back strong.

NOTE: He is fine, I have checked on him..just a bad strain.


IDEA: Take your daugher to Dubai or New Zealand this summer, she will be ready and waiting for fall.
post #41 of 59
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Originally Posted by I:)Skiing View Post
Marge---you are the mom...you sound like an intelligent person. You know best. You did good.


NOTE: He is fine, I have checked on him..just a bad strain.


IDEA: Take your daugher to Dubai or New Zealand this summer, she will be ready and waiting for fall.
Thanks so much.

I'm glad your little friend is okay. *whew*

Good idea about the Dubai. : Although New Zealand does sound tempting.
post #42 of 59
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Originally Posted by jonnythan View Post
I apologize for posting here.
This has got to be the most straightforward apology I've ever seen on epicski.

OR maybe it's dripping with sarcasm and I'm a little slow. But seriously the guy apologized without any self-justification or prolonging the spat. A rare and beautiful post.

Sat on the sidelines for this one - sorry to hear about the injury, hope you get good news from the radiologist etc. - but sure don't want to question anyone's judgment as a parent, or have them question mine. Unless clearly invited, just do NOT get between the momma bear and her cub.
post #43 of 59
Marge - I would have done the same as you if it were my child. Parents just know their kids and how they react to certain situations.

And I wouldn't worry about this having a lasting impact on her. I broke my leg skiing when I was 5. The fall wasn't that bad, but my binding didn't release. I remember feeling that something wasn't quite right, but I was not is a lot of pain ... until they put me in the toboggan.
It was my last run of the season as I had my cast on until the after the snow melted. However, the following year I couldn't wait to get back out and show those slopes who was boss.
post #44 of 59
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Thanks guys/girls. I took her to the PCP (couldn't get into the sports med doc until the 21st) this morning and he did x-rays.
Glad you got some pics taken. You probably had a peak too, a good idea. When I broke my capitate (the head of the capitate was broken off and rotated by 180 degrees) and scaphoid, the "expert" at the local hospital where I stopped in to get checked out never phoned. When I went to my own doctor a week later, it took her a second to see something was wrong.
post #45 of 59
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If my child could not walk to the bathroom, I would get that leg x-rayed.
Psst. That can happen to me after a good day of skiing when I DON'T crash.

I hurt my wrist on my last day of skiing when I still lived in NC, the day before I left for a 3 day UT vacation. Got a xray, they said all was OK. When I got back 5 days later they said come in again for more x-rays. I spent the next 4.5 months in a cast with a broken wrist.
post #46 of 59
marge - as most others have said here... kids bounce back VERY easily. If she liked skiing before, she will most likely like skiing again. The injury will be nothing more than a badge of honor.
post #47 of 59
marge - glad your daughter is ok.

Fyi : X-ray show bone fractures, but doesn't show ligament tears well. If a ligament tear is suspected, MRI or Lachman Test (for ACL) is a better option.

I know a person that injured her knee while skiing. She had some swelling, but was able to walk without limping within a few days. She suspected a ligament tear, and sure enough MRI showed a complete tear of her ACL that X-ray would've missed. She got back on her skis only 2 weeks later - very gingerly. However, with the support of ACL, she cannot risk certain movements, such as knee twisting, because they will further damage her knee. Watching her walk and even bike, you wouldn't even know that she's missing an ACL.
post #48 of 59
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Originally Posted by Brick View Post
marge - glad your daughter is ok.

Fyi : X-ray show bone fractures, but doesn't show ligament tears well. If a ligament tear is suspected, MRI or Lachman Test (for ACL) is a better option.

I know a person that injured her knee while skiing. She had some swelling, but was able to walk without limping within a few days. She suspected a ligament tear, and sure enough MRI showed a complete tear of her ACL that X-ray would've missed. She got back on her skis only 2 weeks later - very gingerly. However, with the support of ACL, she cannot risk certain movements, such as knee twisting, because they will further damage her knee. Watching her walk and even bike, you wouldn't even know that she's missing an ACL.
Definitely. We're awaiting the appt with the sports med doc. We were just concerned about getting her to do an mri at such a young age (danger of sedation and such). I'm hoping he can be a bit more diagnostic without having to put her through that. The PA told me it only ruled out fractures so a follow-up/consult with the pedi ortho/sports med guy was our next route. I'm just waiting for the doc to work her in to the schedule (probably next week).

I'll update after that one.
post #49 of 59
Our son broke his leg in a training course a few years ago. He healed well, and came back the following winter strong & comfortable. I watched him closely on the first couple of days back to be sure he was comforable mentally as well as physically. I've had kids on my race teams come back after various injuries, and my approach is pretty much the same: make sure the physical capability is there (and I'll adapt drills sometimes to accommodate the recovery phase), and most importantly make sure that any fears are addressed with support & encouragement.
post #50 of 59
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Oh.... and I let her go out and run a marathon in the interim. What the heck did you think I did? I put her on the couch with ice.
Uhh,

Didn't you say you had her ski again after she got hurt?

post #51 of 59
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Originally Posted by MAGGOT View Post
Uhh,

Didn't you say you had her ski again after she got hurt?

Unbelievable... Marge, sorry you have had to endure all this abuse. The judgemental attitude of some people is freakin' unbelievable. Especially considering YOU are the one who is there to see it first hand.

Haven't any of you judgemental posters been hurt before? Here's how it goes... You go to the ER and they take x-rays... the x-rays come back negative (of course) because you have a soft tissue injury, just like nearly ALL ski injuries... If you have a fracture, you pretty much know it before you get there. If it's a displaced fracture, you definitely know it...

Anyway, so no fracture... Here you go, Mr. Patient.... here is a set of crutches ($250), an immobilizer brace (mainly to create the illusion that we actually did something for you - $300), and a prescription for 800mg Motrin. (wait a minute, can't I just take 4 ordinary, over the counter Ibuprofens?) Oh, and go see an orthopedic specialist as soon as possible.

So basically, Marge simply cut out the bullshit trip to the ER, BECAUSE SHE IS AN ER NURSE!!!! Do you think she's never seen this type of thing before???

Unbelievable.
post #52 of 59
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post
Unbelievable... Marge, sorry you have had to endure all this abuse. The judgemental attitude of some people is freakin' unbelievable. Especially considering YOU are the one who is there to see it first hand
+ Infinity here. I've been hiding in the weeds shaking my head thru this. Tisk tisk on you folks. I suspect most of you critics and medical experts aren't parents.:
post #53 of 59
I have never and will never criticize parents and how they deal with there own kids.... everyone has a different way of looking at life.
post #54 of 59
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I suspect most of you critics and medical experts aren't parents.:
On the other hand, a lot of these parents aren't medical experts.... Like Marge is. Hell, she's both!!
post #55 of 59
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Uhh,

Didn't you say you had her ski again after she got hurt?

Thanks guys for sticking up for me. Most of you are a super bunch.

Yes, I actually did let her go back out and ski at that point after the initial injury. She wasn't crying. Heck, I told her she couldn't go back out unless she could walk without limping. She jumped out of her chair and literally ran (in ski boots) to her uncle and cousin. She never complained about it the rest of the afternoon, even on the ride home. It was after she sat down with some ice and no movement that things got worse. The worst part was actually about 12 hours after injury.

I guess every time my child gets slightly injured I better bench her and call it a day eh? She's a girl. She can make a miniscule scrath seem life threatening at times. I was under the impression that if she was really hurting she would tell me or there would be some indication. She never let on the rest of the afternoon that there was any indication of pain in the least.
post #56 of 59
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Uhh,

Didn't you say you had her ski again after she got hurt?

It was ok though Maggot she made sure she went back out on super fat skis!

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post #57 of 59
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post

Haven't any of you judgemental posters been hurt before? Here's how it goes... You go to the ER and they take x-rays... the x-rays come back negative (of course) because you have a soft tissue injury, just like nearly ALL ski injuries... If you have a fracture, you pretty much know it before you get there. If it's a displaced fracture, you definitely know it...

Anyway, so no fracture... Here you go, Mr. Patient.... here is a set of crutches ($250), an immobilizer brace (mainly to create the illusion that we actually did something for you - $300), and a prescription for 800mg Motrin. (wait a minute, can't I just take 4 ordinary, over the counter Ibuprofens?) Oh, and go see an orthopedic specialist as soon as possible.

So basically, Marge simply cut out the bullshit trip to the ER, BECAUSE SHE IS AN ER NURSE!!!! Do you think she's never seen this type of thing before???

Unbelievable.


excellent post, from one who's been there before to (obviously) another ...
post #58 of 59
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excellent post, from one who's been there before to (obviously) another ...
HA! Yeah... I've been through that when I blew out my ACL. I had a feeling they wouldn't be able to do anything for me, but it hurt really bad, I was scared, and I felt like I had to do SOMETHING!!

Now the ER is reserved for the times I see bone sticking through the skin.
post #59 of 59
Sorry about the earlier sarcasm. I was just going on the information available at the time, "couldn't walk to the bathroom". All I advised was get it x-rayed, and she did get it x-rayed.

The part about still being able to ski some more after it happened wasn't posted.

Yeah, I too have delayed treatment to enjoy more skiing. Unless I obviously seriously injured (can't hold a cake of soap, can't walk, etcetera.) I generally wait three days after an injury to see if it's healing on its own.
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