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Hard to get left edge.

post #1 of 10
4/7/08 at 11:49am
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Boots Lange Comp 100s...custom fit by Boot Dr in Telluride (best) Green Mountain and then some others here and there. They work GREAT...

I am talking fine tuning now. One-the other or both of my boots have the custom heel pcs...2-4%, I dont know.

Skis--Fischer AMC 170s. 79mm under heel. I mention this because when I am on my Dynastar OmiCarvs--67mm, I do not "feel" this.


ISSUE: Flats---call it green or light blue. Any run that I am not moving quickly into a left turn... I am finding it difficult to roll my left ankle or edge the left ski. Of course I can just "do it", but I want to be able to do it with finess...similar to my right. On a scale of 1-100, I am talking very minor issue...the last 4%.

My feelings are that this is my body--not my movement pattern. Because I am on the flats, I can tell myself,,move the knee, move the ankle, move your body, do something...as I do it...I feel resistance. As opposed to the right side...I "think about moving", it goes. On the left side, it "feels" like I have do do a gross movement.

I have not experiemented with shims yet...or duct tape. I have heard two theories...put the shim on the inside which lowers the outside edge, getting it closer to the snow and thus edge. Or, shim the outside--how that works, I dont know (more pressure on outside, gets it closer to the snow?)

I will try your recommendations...then, if shimming works...Is there a way to tell what heel degree I currently have? I might be over or under and need to change them 1 degree either way, how would I know.


My current thought is, this issue is so minor--we wont be able to see it in the shop standing or hopping on one foot.

But now that I know about it, I want to try and fix it.
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post #2 of 10
4/7/08 at 8:40pm
As you know, wider skis will accentuate subtle differences in canting, especially on groomed terrain.

And you are probably right that something that represents a "4%" difference in feel will not be sorted out indoors .

Why don't you just test some different setups, changing only one variable at a time. Sounds like some small changes in either cuff alignment or canting shims (1/2 degree) will get you where you want.

To clarify: Is it your turn to the left, i.e. left foot = inside ski?

Also, have you seen some video of yourself on the wider skis.... Can you appreciate any difference visually?

Lastly, you may simply have to accept some subtle kinesthetic asymmetry - it's not unusual!
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post #3 of 10
4/8/08 at 5:06am
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Since I am fully unfamiliar with cuff set ups....

I will start with canting.

I am definitely speaking of inside ski edge (new edge) Start left turn, left ski, pinky toe edge.

Should the cant go under the pinky side of the heel, the big toe side of the heel, Should I (do I need) put it under the front as well. Doing some carpentry, it would seem odd to only place the cant under one corner of my boot.

Thanks for your quick response.
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post #4 of 10
4/10/08 at 6:52pm
Matt, may be correct but I think there is something else to consider here. From your description it sounds as if you could be blocked inside your boot. In other words it is possible that the boot (probably on the lateral side of the left boot may be inhibiting movement of your foot inside the boot.

LKou
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post #5 of 10
4/11/08 at 6:16am
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Lou, Does that mean Cuff or other interior (footbed) adjustments?


Also, can I get some clarity on where to start canting...I am going skiing in 1 week, would like to do some testing.
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post #6 of 10
4/12/08 at 1:07pm
Probably not cuff but some part of the lower shell. Often it can be the lateral malleolus contacting the shell in the ankle pocket and sometimes it is more on top in the instep area.

Before you start canting I would make certain this isn't the problem.

Lou
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post #7 of 10
4/12/08 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by Lou Rosenfeld View Post
Probably not cuff but some part of the lower shell. Often it can be the lateral malleolus contacting the shell in the ankle pocket and sometimes it is more on top in the instep area.

Before you start canting I would make certain this isn't the problem.

Lou
+1
Matt
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post #8 of 10
4/13/08 at 7:38am
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Is this something I can diagnose or test for myself, Or does it take the expert eye/feel of a Boot Fitter.
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post #9 of 10
4/14/08 at 9:06pm
Put on both boots and roll from edge to edge. Can you feel pressure in your left boot that limits your ability to roll to the end of your normal range of motion?

Lou
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post #10 of 10
4/18/08 at 7:31am
if you are on snow you could do a one footed straight run. if you feel yourself falling to the inside on that foot you might want to lift the big toe side of the foot bed, if you are twitching to the outside you might need to roll yourself down. This is really the easiest test.

If you are getting to the inside with difficulty I would say you might need to allow more pronation inside the boot.

Once you can tell us the results of this test we can probably be more helpful.
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