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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
Was wondering how the Dukes hold up over time (20+ days), in terms of torsional rigidity. I personally favor "hard mounted" bindings. I currently have the Jesters on my Gotamas and love them. I have a pr of Dukes and was considering putting them on a pair of Monster 88's. I have no intention of touring with them, but the Dukes higher stand height on my M88's sound intriguing to me since that is my ski when I'm not on the goats.

My concern: After 20 days of hard skiing on groomers/hardpack the Dukes might get "sloppy". Any thoughts or comments are appreciated.
post #2 of 24
I have two pairs of skis with Dukes mounted, both have over 20 days, no slop at all.

I wouldn't put a duke on a ski unless I might tour with it (I tour with both pair I have). I'd sell the duke, mount another Jester and use the price difference to go skiing.
post #3 of 24
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Originally Posted by swampyankee View Post
Was wondering how the Dukes hold up over time (20+ days), in terms of torsional rigidity. I personally favor "hard mounted" bindings. I currently have the Jesters on my Gotamas and love them. I have a pr of Dukes and was considering putting them on a pair of Monster 88's. I have no intention of touring with them, but the Dukes higher stand height on my M88's sound intriguing to me since that is my ski when I'm not on the goats.

My concern: After 20 days of hard skiing on groomers/hardpack the Dukes might get "sloppy". Any thoughts or comments are appreciated.
Errrr....sell them and get a binding with the lift you want???

FYI....I normally ski the im88 with a relatively flat binding...it's more versitile that way.
post #4 of 24
I think I have around 80 days on my Dukes. No hint of slop.
post #5 of 24
I have 70 to 80 days on the Dukes - love them - solid solid binding.

John
post #6 of 24
about 20 days here on 120mm wide ski, the binding seems to be doing very well. No slop, no noise just direct powder transfer and it hasnt not prereleased(DIN of 12, I DIN at 10.5)
post #7 of 24
Thread Starter 
Great feedback, thank you! Since I have the skis(M88) and the bindings(Duke) I will most likely mount them up at the begining of next year.
post #8 of 24
I prefer flat mounts on skis like the 88. In fact, I tend to dislike lift on skis wider than about 80mm waist. I think it compromises balance and feel, and the lift is not as effective on wider skis anyhow. You'd need a lot of lift to get the same effect that modest lift provides on narrow waisted carvers. So be aware that lift on a wider ski is very much a compromise.
post #9 of 24
Only get Dukes if you are going to tour with them. Seriously, alpining with touring gear will get you heckled.
post #10 of 24
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Originally Posted by DropCliffsNotBombs View Post
Only get Dukes if you are going to tour with them. Seriously, alpining with touring gear will get you heckled.


Really? Is that how it is where you ski?
post #11 of 24
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Really? Is that how it is where you ski?
Uh...yep.
post #12 of 24
If you don't intend to tour with them, then why do you have them? I'd sell them and get the right binding for the ski. Skiing a touring binding for lift served skiing not only makes you look like a tool (and subject to the above mentioned heckling), it just doesn't make sense.
post #13 of 24
I'd love to see the stats on the number of people that ski Dukes, but don't own a pair of skins. Call my a cynic, but I bet it's pretty high.
post #14 of 24
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I'd love to see the stats on the number of people that ski Dukes, but don't own a pair of skins. Call my a cynic, but I bet it's pretty high.
Probably the same percentage as people who own a truck/suv/hummer and never have put in 4wd........................
post #15 of 24
It's just like the guy who "drives a Hummer H2 buts never takes it off-road" phenomenon. People that wear AT gear purely for style are just asking for it. Where I live, that's called posing!
post #16 of 24
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I'd love to see the stats on the number of people that ski Dukes, but don't own a pair of skins. Call my a cynic, but I bet it's pretty high.
I'll freely admit to it. I just don't have the cash to drop on everything all at once. Does this make me lame? Please don't heckle me in your awesome lift lines at telluride!
post #17 of 24
In the scheme of things, a pair of climbing skins are not expensive. Analogy, your skis are currently like a car without an engine, in other words a glorified billy cart. Get some skins and you've added the motor.
post #18 of 24
Dukes are great AT bindings for the downhill part, in fact they are as good as a traditional alpine binding in many respects. This makes them much less of a tradeoff than other AT bindings and enhances their appeal. So now everybody wants Dukes, to the point it's become a fad. Sadly, they are still heavier and taller than a traditional alpine binding, so it doesn't make sense to mount Dukes if you never plan to do touring. May as well strap on weight and stand height for no good reason.
post #19 of 24
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I'll freely admit to it. I just don't have the cash to drop on everything all at once. Does this make me lame? Please don't heckle me in your awesome lift lines at telluride!
Don't you know that we don't have lift lines here? You must be referring to the front range.
post #20 of 24
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Originally Posted by DropCliffsNotBombs View Post
Uh...yep.
Do adults ski there too?
post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post
Do adults ski there too?
It's the adults that are heckling the poser kids.
post #22 of 24
What a sad place, I feel for you.
post #23 of 24
For shorter climbs the Dukes are o.k. but for really big verticals or multiday touring I'd still favor a lighter setup.

Apparently some folks over at TGR have had issues with them so maybe we aren't charging hard enough...
post #24 of 24
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Originally Posted by KyndKyd View Post
I'll freely admit to it. I just don't have the cash to drop on everything all at once. Does this make me lame? Please don't heckle me in your awesome lift lines at telluride!
I don't get it. Are you saying that you don't have enough money to buy a pair of skins after you bought your Dukes?
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