Originally Posted by beyond
Atomicman, sorry if I got the version of your Supershape wrong; it makes no difference to my point. Which was that some fats do surprisingly well on groomers, but that doesn't mean they'll replace (any good) carvers anytime soon. And incidentally, you're missing out on one of the major strengths of a fat ski, which is to make heavy chop/crud smooth and enjoyable.
Beyond, you know I live in the Great Pacific Northwest and you think I am missing the virtues of a fatter ski. you have heard the term cascade concrete???
I never said anywhere to take a 66mm ski out offpiste.
But unless there is very deep new snow or wretched miserable heavy snow, I prefer an 88mm ski.
PhilT: what is with the condescending attitutude? You guys that hike for 30 minutes to get 30 turns on you 800 vertical feet, think you are that cool?
I can ski the off piste with the best of 'em, and do so and enjoy it, but not to the exclusion of skiing 7,500 vertical feet of groomers at Mach while you are wasting the day walking for 800 Ft. of 30 good turns and a miserable trail back to lift.
I feel sorry for ya really! I love pow, I love groomed. it really does not matter to me. I'll take whatever the mountain dishes!
Doesn't seem like you can enjoy a day of groomers. I can and do enjoy both and am fortunate to have an area I ski at that has patrolled and controlled tons of backcountry that is hikable & lift served.
Do I hike sometimes , yeah, do I ski groomers all day sometimes, yeah, do i ski steep and deep that is chair accessed, absolutely. Do I think I am way cooler then you because I like groomers and off-piste untracked, absolutley not!
It takes precision, and skill to ski groomers fast efficiently and effectively in control, how you can try to belittle anyone who enjoys that is a mystery to me!
Tyrone: There is definetly a difference between guys who are using there fatties to get to the more extreme stuff and guys who are sliding around on fatties on the groomed all day as goal!
Hiking out to untracked is no more a Holy grail of skiing, then making perfect clean carves on groomers!
It's all good!