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Edge issues with my guns

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
I've been having a lot of problems with a set of salomon guns in 181 length. I think originally I screwed up the edges by using a file the wrong way. After a week or so sharpening my skis with a file every other night, I began to notice my skis becoming extremely grippy on hardpack. They began to fight against initiating a turn and sometimes not turning at all. I went to a local shop and asked them to set everything back to factory spec, and explained how they were performing since my use of the file. No one really knew what I was talking about but they said they would fix them. After I got the skis back from the shop, the grippy problem vanished, and has been replaced by the exact opposite result on hardpack conditions. They hold NO edge on anyhting close to Icey hardpack conditions. Can anyone tell me what's going on?
People say these skis warp, could that be my problem?

Thanks,
Huck
post #2 of 11
My money is on : hanging burr followed by a detune.


Can you shave your thumbnail with the edges about 2 inches/ 5 cm back from the tips?
post #3 of 11
Or hanging burr followed by excessive base bevel.

Why would you file so much?
post #4 of 11
Thread Starter 
to tell you the truth Epic, I didn't know any better. I had never worked on my skis before this incident; I always paid shops. Are these skis ruined?
post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by Huckfinn View Post
I had never worked on my skis before this incident; I always paid shops. Are these skis ruined?
Yes. I'll cover shipping, save you the strain of walking them to the trash heap.


Seriously, there's a couple of things you can do to figure out the state of the edges. If I'm remotely right the only thing to panic over is whether you'll pay the $20-30 to get it fixed or pay in beer.
post #6 of 11
if you filed your base edge every other night wiht a file (the fact the file was backwards really only means you probably didn't take as much material off as you would have oterwise)you now have a huge amount of base bevel, so as was said , A hanging burr followed by excessive base bevel is most likely the cause and effect!

Your skis need to be stoneground and then retuned properly A true 1 base edge bevel and 2 side edge should do the trick, if you can find someone who knows what the hay the are doin'!

If you can't find someone you trust to do 'em, have them stoneground flat and ship 'em to me. I'll give them the Atomicman special hand tune and wax for $80.00! Or ship 'em to me as is and I will have them stoneground where I have all of my skis done for $120.00 I'm near Seattle!
post #7 of 11
If you don't have any files and guides get in touch with me next fall and I'll help you put a base bevel and side bevel on your skis after you have them stoneground. Personally, I like a 1/2 degree base bevel and 1 degree side bevel for my powder skis and a 1 degree base bevel and 2 degree side bevel for my everyday skis.
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by Rio View Post
If you don't have any files and guides get in touch with me next fall and I'll help you put a base bevel and side bevel on your skis after you have them stoneground. Personally, I like a 1/2 degree base bevel and 1 degree side bevel for my powder skis and a 1 degree base bevel and 2 degree side bevel for my everyday skis.
No one I know ever puts a .5 base bevel on powder ski? what is the point of that?
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post
No one I know ever puts a .5 base bevel on powder ski? what is the point of that?
Bridger Bowl has been described as an L. It goes from steeps to flats. The flats usually are groomed or quickly packed out. It is fun to have some beveling on all your skis for playing around on the groomers when bombing back to the lift.
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Rio View Post
Bridger Bowl has been described as an L. It goes from steeps to flats. The flats usually are groomed or quickly packed out. It is fun to have some beveling on all your skis for playing around on the groomers when bombing back to the lift.
rio, I know, but a .5 is not very much bevel for a Powder ski. I was saying they should have a 1 degree.
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone for the input. I think I'll give atomicman's advice a shot. Gonna use a local shop though, Rio I will give you a shout in the fall.

Thanks,
Huck
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