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Rockered skis for women?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
It seems like almost every manufacturer is going to be coming out with rockered ski for 08/09, however, I have yet to find one that is a women's ski. Does anyone know if there will be such a thing? How about a unisex/men's ski in 165 or shorter? I'm pretty stoked to be getting a new setup for myself, but I feel bad that my 5'2" 115lb wife will either have to get something too long (175 is the shortest I can find) or stick with a traditional powder ski.
post #2 of 21
Why make a rockered ski that is so short? Maybe she should be skiing Pontoons? Think it comes in 169 doesn't it?
post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 
She just made the jump from 15x skis to 16x skis this season. Her current skis (M82s) are 161. If I can only find 17x rockered skis next year, then I'll still have her try at least one pair, but I just think it'll be too much ski for her. One of our local ski shop owners agreed that 175 would be too much ski for her.

I wasn't aware that the Pontoon came in a 169. That'll definitely end up on the "must try" list.
post #4 of 21
AFAIK the best bet would be a 175 Praxis. In terms of the way the length will "feel" it'll ski more like a 165.

The 169 Pontoon is gonna be problematic for a smaller person. That 160 tip is just ridiculous for someone that small. Bad call on K2's part IMO. They should have slimmed the 169 down...
post #5 of 21
Capital Skis also makes the G-Fukenstein and G-Fukenstein Lite in a 170. Pricey, and probably impossible to demo, but very nice skis.

www.capitalskis.com
post #6 of 21
What Spindrift said about the Praxis.

SierraJim is currently blowing out the 169 Pontoons for under $400, FWIW. But I wouldn't expect them to be substantially shorter than the 175 Praxis.
post #7 of 21
In addition to the current 'Toon and 'Bent in 169, there will be a few more choices for '09 but still not much.

Salomon Czar-166 forebody rocker (128-108-118)
K2 Obsethed-169 tip and tail rocker (138-105-125)
Line Pandora-162 no rocker but a great soft flex for a light skier (139-110-137)

SJ
post #8 of 21
SJ's Pontoon pricing is killer. Anyone thinking about that class of ski & really wanting to dip their toes in at bargain prices should jump on it (even though I'm a bigger fan of the Praxis Powder & Volkl Kuro these days - you just won't see them at anything vaguely near a sub-400 price).

But - that Pontoon tip is damn fat for a smaller person. Consider a 175 Praxis with a 125 waist which is the fattest part of the ski vs a Pontoon with a 160 tip. Also note that the tips are gonna wander & hit more than the underfoot wide spot of the Praxis.

Also, just to add a preemptive comment... the 169 Hell Bent is a ton of ski as well - more like a 175 in real length. Plus it is far from powder specific when compared with a Praxis, Pontoon, Kuro, Spat, etc.

Maybe cloudpeak will chime in as she's skied the 175 Praxis as well as a couple of other skis under discussion.
post #9 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
In addition to the current 'Toon and 'Bent in 169, there will be a few more choices for '09 but still not much.

Salomon Czar-166 forebody rocker (128-108-118)
K2 Obsethed-169 tip and tail rocker (138-105-125)
Line Pandora-162 no rocker but a great soft flex for a light skier (139-110-137)

SJ

Thanks to everyone that's been replying. There's a lot of good information here that I'll go over with the little lady. Regarding Praxis, I know less than nothing about them... I looked at their web page and it seems like they have some interesting things going on there, but which ski in that line up are you guys recommending? And does anyone know where they can be demo'd? We've already learned that no matter what other people like, you (we) really have to demo a ski first.


SJ - Thanks for the 3 recommendations. I find it amusing (and a bit reassuring) that the Line Pandora is a ski that the local shop owner has recommended as well. Regardless of what we get to try out in rockered skis, she'll definitely spend at least a day or two on the Pandoras.
post #10 of 21
Sorry about the confusion on the Praxis. Through the current model year, they've only had one ski: the Praxis Powder. That's the one we're talking about. The other skis are new for 2009, and barely anyone has skied them yet (although I'm hoping to get a chance over the next few weekends).
post #11 of 21
Although I'm bigger than your wife (I'm 5'7" and 150 pounds), I've skied the Praxis 175, the K2 HellBent 169, and the K2 Pontoon 179. Of the three, I prefer the Praxis and the Hellbents to the Pontoons.

If your wife wants a pure powder ski, I strongly suggest she look at the Praxis 175. They're awesomely fun in powder and so much easier to manage for a smaller person than the other two skis. These really rock the power!!

I love the HellBents and have skied them almost every day this season, but they are really wide skis for a smaller person.
post #12 of 21
first remember there really is no such thing as things as womens skis

now with that out of the way, the 175 Praxis is where I would go remember RR skis, ski really short. also remember there is also no decambering a reverse ski.
post #13 of 21
Was reading Ski Press Gear about
Elan Deep Spice
Rossi Voodoo Pro BC 110 and
Salomon Geisha

Anyone have information on these for smaller women who may want to try the rocker revolution?

I'm hoping to do a cat ski day at Monarch and at least one day at Silverton this season and, since they rent Pontoons, which are not recommended for small women by poster above, was wondering if I should try to locate a demo option on one of the above.

(I'm just shy of 5'5", weigh 117 lbs and my every day skis are 160 Watea 78s)
post #14 of 21
 K2's rocked women's ski is the Misbehaved with a 98mm waist. The ski has a 5/30 rocker both tip and tail. That means 5mm at the forward contact point and extending 30cm deep from the contact point. The comes in sizes 149,159 and  169. 
post #15 of 21
 Roxy has their own version of the Rossi S7.
post #16 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mom View Post

Was reading Ski Press Gear about
Elan Deep Spice
Rossi Voodoo Pro BC 110 and
Salomon Geisha

Anyone have information on these for smaller women who may want to try the rocker revolution?

I'm hoping to do a cat ski day at Monarch and at least one day at Silverton this season and, since they rent Pontoons, which are not recommended for small women by poster above, was wondering if I should try to locate a demo option on one of the above.

(I'm just shy of 5'5", weigh 117 lbs and my every day skis are 160 Watea 78s)



 

If you have strong legs, I don't think you'll have much trouble with Pontoons.  They make the untracked dreamy. 

They get exciting when things get chopped up, however.   

Another option is the 2010 Line Pandora, which has an extended rocker in the tip; but its underfoot camber and a conventional sidecut are helpful in variable conditions.
post #17 of 21
To any women who are interested in a superfat ski and who might hike at all for their turns, I would suggest putting on a slick ski coat, and maybe wetting the shoulder a little, then trying to shoulder the skis, as if you were going to hike with them.

I have problems shouldering (and keeping on my shoulder) my Rockers and I'm 6'4" with fairly broad shoulders. Food for thought.
post #18 of 21
 Having fallen in love with the Kiku(2009 not rockered) this past season, I'd love to demo the 2010 Kiku which has a rocker design.
post #19 of 21
Just back from summer vacation........yawn.........

The Roxy is the 176 version of the Rossi S7 with very hot graphics. The Rossi Voodoo is also the S7 but comes in a 166 size as well. Regardless of the color, this ski has a substantial section of conventional camber and sidecut through the center of the ski and is then reverse sidecut and rockered fore and aft of that.

This ski skis very short and would be much more manageable than say a 169 Pontoon (for example)

SJ
post #20 of 21
Thread Starter 
Talk about old threads... My wife ended up with the 2009 Line Pandoras. She really likes them and they're definitely the right ski for her. She still has almost no confidence in powder though, so the real trick is just getting her to go fast enough for the skis to work. :)

Like was already mentioned, the 2010 Pandora is rockered in the front. My wife demo'd it at the end of last season, but didn't get to really try it in any powder. The rocker didn't seem to extreme, so even just based on the experiences with the 2009 model, I'd still recommend trying it out if you can.
post #21 of 21
Fascinating. Thanks.

Phil, you pose an interesting issue. I do hike a lot for turns, so that could be a factor. And I understand Silverton is a LOT of hiking.

I am pretty confident in powder and my relatively skinny Wateas are fine for anything up to knee deep in fluff or boot top in heavier snow or slush. Not looking to buy, but to demo for those special days.

But, i really like trees and will take any advantage i can in tighter trees to make the day better, especially if it's an expensive day like cat skiing or Silverton.

The Line Pandora and Kiku sound like they'd be worth trying if i can find some to demo. If not, I'll try the pontoons if it's a deep day when I'm at Silverton (hope so!) since they have them there on site. However, "strong" is a relative term, and while i may have strong legs for my size and advanced age,  they are decidedly not so when compared to many who post here, i suspect.

I also ski at Winter Park/Mary Jane a lot and they have a rossi demo store on mountain, so i might try those voodoos too if i hit it on an especially deep day. Sierra Jim has an uncanny ability recommend skis I've liked.

I bought sugar daddies from him about four or five years ago. Liked them a lot; had a great time at Whistler and at Wolf Creek when it was deep. But i found after skiing the Wateas for much of last year that the SDs just felt, hmmm, twangy? or jittery in comparison. Maybe it's because they were shorter (153) or i was skiing faster, or maybe i got to like the smoother feel of the wood core? not sure. I kept trying them when it was a powder day and opting to go back to the car for the Wateas instead. Finally ended up giving them to my niece.

Anyhow. nice stuff to think about during the dog-days. Thanks for the indulgence!
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