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post #1 of 14
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This is me on a club level masters training session. Feedback very much appreciated.

http://ski.topeverything.com/default...nt&ID=4A57C8D0
post #2 of 14
Looks good. Only 2 quick ticky tacky observations.

1. Could be closer to the gate (can't we all?)
2. Weight looks back a little. (Though in that section pitch looks pretty flat?)
post #3 of 14
It's tough to say anythign constructive with only two frames to work with, but I'll give it a go.

1) Nice transition. You exhibit what I like to see in an athlete: balanced weight, a good pole plant and a core that WILL be moving in the next turn due to these factors.
2) @ the gate, solid position, both skis seem to be carving.
3) This is more tactical: you can probably ski, as was said, a lot closer to the gate than this. You line is pretty round, assuming the next gate isn't turny like all hell.
4) Weight might be a little back, but it'd be be more concerned about lack of great angle in the skis. This might also be due to the course, but show them bases more ! So a bit more counter at the gate instead of banking.
post #4 of 14

Looks fine...

...but slalom ain't a beauty contest. So the question is...are you getting any faster?
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by Racer256 View Post
Looks good. Only 2 quick ticky tacky observations.

1. Could be closer to the gate (can't we all?)
2. Weight looks back a little. (Though in that section pitch looks pretty flat?)
Thanks for your good words.
1. I whent too close earlier this winter.... kind of keeps you to the outside for a while . Im aiming for gate hitting slightly lower than the knee.
2. Yes, weight was back.... flew almost on my butt comming out of that turn! How should I try to move my weight forward? More forward lean in my ancles? Softer boots? Unbucked top buckle and boost strap looser? Or butt forward? Any ides!
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by BillyRay View Post
It's tough to say anythign constructive with only two frames to work with, but I'll give it a go.

1) Nice transition. You exhibit what I like to see in an athlete: balanced weight, a good pole plant and a core that WILL be moving in the next turn due to these factors.
2) @ the gate, solid position, both skis seem to be carving.
3) This is more tactical: you can probably ski, as was said, a lot closer to the gate than this. You line is pretty round, assuming the next gate isn't turny like all hell.
4) Weight might be a little back, but it'd be be more concerned about lack of great angle in the skis. This might also be due to the course, but show them bases more ! So a bit more counter at the gate instead of banking.
4. Common BillyRay, Im edging like hell. At least Im edging like hell for being just me.
3. Im not really tracking as wide as others. I have this small jerk just as I come to the gate. I wonder why is that?
2. Thanks, yes, I have both skis carving in this section of the course. Some slight skidding of the outside ski is my problem really. Seems I lean towards the inside too soon. The low C is my problem area.
1. Thanks. I have been taking a lot of beating over my lack of pole plant so I try to morph them back but there is so much going on I forget it often.
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by SkiRacer55 View Post
...but slalom ain't a beauty contest. So the question is...are you getting any faster?
So Im looking good am I . Yes, Im getting faster. I actually won our last club race but all the good guys were not there. Anyway, I made huge progress this year. Im still looking for a lot of improvement so dont give up on me yet!
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by Racer256 View Post
1. Could be closer to the gate (can't we all?)
I'd be careful about that one. Getting too close can inhibit the mechanics of the turn, forcing you to become "pinched" to the gate and unable to maintain dynamic technique.

It's hard to see much from those pics but I see a nice, solid transition and good upper/lower body separation.

To say more, we'd need a longer sequence or video...
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by D(C) View Post
I'd be careful about that one. Getting too close can inhibit the mechanics of the turn, forcing you to become "pinched" to the gate and unable to maintain dynamic technique.

It's hard to see much from those pics but I see a nice, solid transition and good upper/lower body separation.

To say more, we'd need a longer sequence or video...
Here is more:
http://ski.topeverything.com/default...nt&ID=CD2B1C7A

So, please say more .

TDK
post #10 of 14

Good...

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Originally Posted by tdk6 View Post
So Im looking good am I . Yes, Im getting faster. I actually won our last club race but all the good guys were not there. Anyway, I made huge progress this year. Im still looking for a lot of improvement so dont give up on me yet!
...so you have a bunch of comments re what you should be doing technically/tactically. Good stuff, but you have to ask yourself, is this going to make me faster? If all you're doing is changing the way you *think* you need to look on video, you're likely to get hung up in micromanaging every little thing that can go wrong or right. Somebody once asked Phil Mahre what he thought about in the starting gate. His answer: "Look ahead, and go all out."
post #11 of 14
tdk6, I see a better fore move into the top of your turn here than in other video of you I've seen of you. As SkiRacer55 says, pretty pictures don't equate to fast times, and there are many elements beyond fore/aft that contribute to success in a race course, but engaging the front of your skis at the top of your turns is a major step in that direction. Few WC racers enter slalom turns in the back seat, and the one I can think of who stubbornly continues trying to,,, well,,, you see how much success he has with that approach.
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by SkiRacer55 View Post
...so you have a bunch of comments re what you should be doing technically/tactically. Good stuff, but you have to ask yourself, is this going to make me faster? If all you're doing is changing the way you *think* you need to look on video, you're likely to get hung up in micromanaging every little thing that can go wrong or right. Somebody once asked Phil Mahre what he thought about in the starting gate. His answer: "Look ahead, and go all out."
I know its going to make me faster. It allredy has .
post #13 of 14

Good stuff...

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Originally Posted by tdk6 View Post
I know its going to make me faster. It allredy has .
...now what do you have to do to go even faster?
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by tdk6 View Post
Here is more:
http://ski.topeverything.com/default...nt&ID=CD2B1C7A

So, please say more .

TDK

Sorry for not getting back on that - haven't checked the thread in a while .

From other posts, I gather that you have been working on starting your turns by engaging your tips to get early pressure.

It looks like your initiation is good in that respect. The turn starts with parallel skis and what looks like nice outside ski pressure.

The next step is to maintain that pressure through the turn. If you look at the chronologically second-to-last frame, you see that the outside ski lags behind. This, to me, indicates that you have lost that outside ski pressure and are riding inside. If you look more closely, you see that the hips are not moving down the turn. Instead, your butt dumps inside and your hips open up toward the outside of the arc. This will cause you to lose that platform you built earlier and will rotationally cause problems when starting your new turn.

The solution is to move your hips down the hill throughout the turn. Starting from the hip, push your outside ski forward. This will bring your entire outside leg, starting from the hip, down the hill and will prevent that lagging that we see. Just drive that outside tip throughout the turn, not just at the beginning. And just remember that anything fore/aft starts with the hips and core.

Hope this helps... Please let me know if you have any questions .
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