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Replace my Explosives?????

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
The backstory -
I live in the upper midwest but get skiing in the mountains once or twice a year. (Lately it has been the SLC areas) I am not sure about ability levels but am a good skiier. I like to carve in the small midwest areas, but when I hit the mountains I want challenge myself so I want to spend some time on the steep and deep (either inbounds or a short hike, like the Baldy Chutes or McConkey Bowl) However, being I don't live by a mountain, I have to make the best of the conditions that I find during the couple of weeks I do get there. Not real fond of bumps unless they are soft and on a slope that is not too steep.

The question -
I have a pair of 184 cm Explosives that I take on my trips to the mountains. They have served me well. They seem to do well on the variety of conditions that I encounter during my couple of weeks. They carve on the groomed, plow through the left over powder and crud, hold well on steep terrain and preform well in the rare pure powder day I find.

SO -- Should I be looking for another ski to replace the Exploders or not?? And if so, what should I replace them with and why would this new ski be better?

Opinions anyone???
post #2 of 16
What would you want a new ski to do differently or better than what you have??

SJ
post #3 of 16
also the volkl explosive was only avail in 165, 173, 180 and 190.

sure you have the right length and right ski?
post #4 of 16
I had an interesting conversation while riding the chair at Bridger yesterday. The other occupant had a pair of early 90s Explosiv 2s which I couldn't resist commenting on. He then went on to talk about his stash of Explosives and his thoughts on current Volkl skis. He totally disliked Gotamas but like Mantras. The Gotamas were too turny while the Mantras had the stable GS ski feel he liked in Explosives. (Personally, I like the Gotamas much more than the Mantras because they are 'turny'.)
post #5 of 16
Doesn't he have that backwards? Aren't the Mantras the turny ones? I have both skis and his comments seem inverted... the Goats have a great GS turn, while the Mantras are so turny they can feel sguirrly sometimes. Maybe it's a question of length.
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by Mr. Crab View Post
Doesn't he have that backwards? Aren't the Mantras the turny ones? I have both skis and his comments seem inverted... the Goats have a great GS turn, while the Mantras are so turny they can feel sguirrly sometimes. Maybe it's a question of length.
I have both in 183/4 too. I also feel that the Mantra is too turny (at least for my tastes) for it's intended use.

SJ
post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 
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also the volkl explosive was only avail in 165, 173, 180 and 190.
sure you have the right length and right ski?
Right ski, wrong length. 184 cm was off the top of my head at work. Just checked they are 180's

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What would you want a new ski to do differently or better than what you have??
There in lies the issue. I am really not sure. I am personally conflicted (see below) about this. Maybe I should see a shrink!! But opinions here are cheaper.

Remember this is the "one" ski I get to bring to the mountains when I fly. 1. Softer shovel? I worry about it getting pushed around in the crud (that I am likely to run into being I have to take whatever snow I run into on my trips) and would they have the guts to handle the steep chutes>
2. Stiffer in the shovel? I am lead to believe that what I have ranks high in that factor.
3. Wider? Tempting, but will I still like them on the groomers?
3. Narrower? Would they still do as well in powder (especially the heavier stuff) when I am lucky enough to run into some.

Demo -- Great advise, but it is hard to do rent the demo ski and find all the different conditions I would like to try it out in.

Just looking for some insights (and opinions as I realize likes and dislikes are an individual preference)

One last question -- Is the Mantra just an Explosive with a slightly wider tip and tail?
Again thanks for the input
post #8 of 16
I never skied the Exploders, just know them from the fervor of others, but sounds like you already have a great ski. So maybe you just want a reason to buy new ones. Which is honorable enough for me.

That said, do you really want to duplicate them? Why not get something different and keep them?
post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 
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That said, do you really want to duplicate them? Why not get something different and keep them?
Like I said, a little conflicted, but am thinking a little wider, a little softer but with a similar side cut (compared to the Explosives I have). Anybody know if that describes the Gotamas.

I also have heard good things about the Mantras. They sound like they are a remake of the Explosives with a deeper side cut. Again my speculation. Anybody know if that is true
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by skugrud View Post
Like I said, a little conflicted, but am thinking a little wider, a little softer but with a similar side cut (compared to the Explosives I have). Anybody know if that describes the Gotamas.
yes it does. The goats are going to outski the explsvs in new snow and on groomers. Go figure that one out. Xplsvs win in crud not only due to the flex of the tip but the shape.

What you should do is take your explosives to the shop, get a stone grind and re-bevel the base edge to give yourself a good-as-new ski.

Then, buy something different. NEVER replace skis, expand to your quiver and stop being such a wimp- bring both pairs on your trip... get a ski bag with wheels, like we all do.

This is the 21st century mate, nobody owns just one pair of skis anymore.

Better yet, order a hand-made boutique from where ever you take your next trip and pick it up while there.
post #11 of 16
The Gots are the new Exploders. Period.

I am not aware of a 184 Explosive (either 180 or 190) but the 190 Gots took the place of the 190 Exploders in my quiver. New Gots are stiffer than you think and the flex stiffens up with longer models, so beware.
post #12 of 16
get another explosive, demo some other skis if you want to, or can, and if you find that magic ski for you, buy em.

Otherwise just tune yours and keep going, or if they are that dead, buy another pair
post #13 of 16
2009 Dynastar Legend Pro 184cm

128-100-118
post #14 of 16
OK, back to harp on a theme: YOU ALREADY OWN skis that essentially cover the territory of the Mantra, Goat, and Legend Pro. If you just want to replace your Exploders, great, but first answer SJ's question, because it's a useful first step.

But IMO, it's even more sensible to take Samurai's advice, get your skis cleaned up, cherish them, go add something significantly different. In this case, think over 110-ish: Katanas, Rockers, Liberty Double Helixes, XXL's, and the list goes on. Lots of really interesting pow skis up there.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
First -- Thanks to all who have replied and are helping me resolve my inner conflict.

Beyond
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YOU ALREADY OWN skis that essentially cover the territory of the Mantra, Goat, and Legend Pro. If you just want to replace your Exploders, great, but first answer SJ's question, because it's a useful first step.

But IMO, it's even more sensible to take Samurai's advice, get your skis cleaned up, cherish them, go add something significantly different. In this case, think over 110-ish: Katanas, Rockers, Liberty Double Helixes, XXL's, and the list goes on. Lots of really interesting pow skis up there
Sounds like a way to go. I did see some Pontoons a month ago at a good price and was tempted, however, I wasn't quite ready.

One other thought is brewing in my mind. What about the Guns? Although they may not be significantly different in width, it is my understanding that they are significantly softer in the shovel. Anyone think I should persue them as a something new and different.
post #16 of 16
Boy!....this is sort of the age old question of......

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"I want new skis, what should I buy?....(what do you want?)....I don't know"
As a direct replacement for the Exploder......I'm not sure there is one exactly although the LP and B-Squad are at least in the ballpark.

Something totally different?....sure, that's not hard. Different how??

Powder specific?? easy enough.....Pontoon or similar. There are a lot of them.

Easy going?? sure......1080 Gun, Line P-100, Atomic Pimp. There are lots of these too.

Medium easy?? heck yeah......Gotama, Coomba, Watea 94 or 101.

And dozens of nuances in between all these.

It's hard to give a useful suggestion when you are vague with what you are looking for.

SJ
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