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post #6271 of 7930

Those are sweet Bases! Will make excellent chair parts after filling ptex holes in that other photo with black. Could even hang them on the wall base out.

 

post #6272 of 7930

The parts of the base that are damaged are under the foot and likely won't be needed for construction. Besides, I have another pair for hanging, or rather, standing in my living room. 

 

 

Hi. My name is MR. I'm a skiaholic.

post #6273 of 7930

Hi MR. You may be pleased to learn that British Pathé recently released a whole slew of vintage clips on their youtube channel, including many that will feed your addiction!

 

This one should compliment the poster in your ski museum nicely...

 

 

And for when you have a few hours to kill...

 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=britishpathe+skiing++

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Thanks, jc!
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Y'all will like this photo of a tune room at St. Moritz Championships 1974.

Not sure where the photo comes from or who took it.

 

 

 

 

2/3/1974 Press Photo:  The alpine ski world championships in St. Moritz have to change their program for the downhill race for men had to be postponed, the bad weather did not allow the necessary pre-race training on the run.  So these fast men on their narrow woods have to wait for sun.  Top favorite Roland Collombin (right) and his friend Philippe Roux bring their skis for waxing to Swiss wax-expert Paul Berlinger (left).         http://www.alpinestyle56.com/category/equipment/                                                                              

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Originally Posted by Tog View Post
 

Y'all will like this photo of a tune room at St. Moritz Championships 1974.

Not sure where the photo comes from or who took it.

 

 

 

 

2/3/1974 Press Photo:  The alpine ski world championships in St. Moritz have to change their program for the downhill race for men had to be postponed, the bad weather did not allow the necessary pre-race training on the run.  So these fast men on their narrow woods have to wait for sun.  Top favorite Roland Collombin (right) and his friend Philippe Roux bring their skis for waxing to Swiss wax-expert Paul Berlinger (left).         http://www.alpinestyle56.com/category/equipment/                                                                              

Notice the wax pot, heating the wax prior to brushing it on!

post #6277 of 7930

Foaming was an option on the Nordica Astral Slalom and Astral Racer boots.  I had a pair of red Astral Racers, foamed, in 1976.  The foaming process was very painful.  They injected the stuff in.  Your foot was in a thin plastic sock.  Once the foam went in, it expanded.  You had to stay in the boot, motionless, for 20 minutes.  When my feet came out they were completely white and numb from the pressure pushing the blood out of my feet.  The fit was great, but I found the foam to not insulate well. 

Thanks,

CW

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Couple vids of the great Alf Engen...

 

 

 

Lots of other clips available on The Alf Engen Ski Museum YouTube Channel.

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Demetre calender 1977

 

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Foaming was an option on the Nordica Astral Slalom and Astral Racer boots.  I had a pair of red Astral Racers, foamed, in 1976.  The foaming process was very painful.  They injected the stuff in.  Your foot was in a thin plastic sock.  Once the foam went in, it expanded.  You had to stay in the boot, motionless, for 20 minutes.  When my feet came out they were completely white and numb from the pressure pushing the blood out of my feet.  The fit was great, but I found the foam to not insulate well. 

Thanks,

CW

The foamed Nordica boots have an entry port on the back like these Racers.

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Good to see the foaming topic come up.  A lot of boot evolution came out of this.

 

Who started the foaming craze in boots?  Was it Henke?  Can remember foaming boots in the very early 70's, just don't remember who did it first.  Might have been Lange trying to get away from their flow liners.  

 

It was around a quite a wile before Hanson ever got going with wax.

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The foamed Nordica boots have an entry port on the back like these Racers.

 

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Good to see the foaming topic come up.  A lot of boot evolution came out of this.

 

Who started the foaming craze in boots?  Was it Henke?  Can remember foaming boots in the very early 70's, just don't remember who did it first.  Might have been Lange trying to get away from their flow liners.  

 

It was around a quite a wile before Hanson ever got going with wax.

 

Would seem to have been Marvin Dalebout of DALEBOOT fame. Patented the idea June 1, 1971 Details here: http://www.google.com/patents/US3581412

The first foamed boots I recall [and owned] were Lange Comps .. probably right about that time.

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What happened to Peter Kennedy Boots?
I'd never heard of them. Not that that means much.
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Short article Sports Illustrated Jan 25 1971 on foam boots with pictures including the magnesium Daleboot (not a good picture).  You have to turn the pages, 52,53 or click on 'show thumbnails'.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/edb/reader.html?magID=SI&issueDate=19710125&mode=reader_vault

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A friend of my dad had a pair of Kennedys. smile.gif
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Short article Sports Illustrated Jan 25 1971 on foam boots with pictures including the magnesium Daleboot (not a good picture).  You have to turn the pages, 52,53 or click on 'show thumbnails'.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/edb/reader.html?magID=SI&issueDate=19710125&mode=reader_vault

Interesting read from an interesting time in equipment development.  The writer is talking about foaming being around for 9 years at the time of the writing. 

 

We can look at Head for metal laminate skis.  K2 for a foam core. Dynamic for cracked edges. Rosmont did a custom fit with little bags of silca (or whatever it was), but that was not foam. Think it was Heirerling who made a mold of your feet and sent them off to Europe to make custom boots, still not the same.  The national teams had all kinds of secret stuff, that skiers never saw; so they don't count either.

 

 Who actually brought foam boots to the market?

post #6288 of 7930

I have my Hart Ballets..............................try those;)

 

Oh............here it is with me on them:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTm_HfyuWrE

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I had a pair of the PK boots, and foamed several more at the shop where I worked.  They were the best-fitting boots ever at the time.  This would have been early 1970s.

 

For those who are unfamiliar, the PK boot was an empty shell without a liner; just a plastic bucket with five buckles and a tongue.  The buyer's foot went into a neoprene scuba diver's sock with the tongue gap taped shut.  We'd mix up the foam with a catalyst, as I recall with a sort of paint-stirrer attachment on an electric drill.  Pour the mud into the shell and stick the foot-in-sock into the puddle.  Wiggle it around, settle on a location, and buckle up.  After it set up (about 20 minutes if I recall correctly), open it up, remove the tape and foot, and trim off the excess foam.

 

The result was a perfect conformance to the foot and the shell.  I skied mine right into terminal shell failure about five seasons later.  Some part of the cuff just came apart, and it was on to the then-new Scott Superhots, the high-performance version of the ultra-light first-gen Scott boots.

 

The new heat-moldable liners accomplish much the same thing, and are certainly tidier in the fitting process, but the old mud-bucket PK's were years ahead in their time.

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SKI magazine November 1978

 

 

post #6291 of 7930

Wow, I didn't think the PRE 1200s came out until 1980.

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SKI magazine November 1978

 

 

Joal, thanks for that photo....I always wanted a set of ELAN RC04 in the 200-205 range.  Never got them, got Blizzard Firebird Thermo RS instead in a 203 race stock.  Still have and love those skis.

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SKI magazine November 1978

 

 

I miss the comprehensive ski reviews from that era. 

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SKI magazine November 1978

 

 

I bought that exact Head Race Series SL 205 summer of 1980. I only raced them once and then promptly broke them skiing bumps on National at Stowe during Xmas break 80-81. That was a huge bummer. Head replaced them with a 203 LR 90 race stock - a GS ski that was a 2x4. I was lucky they replaced them with anything since I got them for $50 from the basement of a local sporting goods store.

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I miss the comprehensive ski reviews from that era. 

 




You mean when they actually told you about what makes that ski what it was?! Construction, flex, materials, etc.)

Now they just throw on an ugly topsheet and tell their dealers to "sell it"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

I miss the comprehensive ski reviews from that era. 

 




You mean when they actually told you about what makes that ski what it was?! Construction, flex, materials, etc.)

Now they just throw on an ugly topsheet and tell their dealers to "sell it"


So true and the writers who do the ski reviews just publish the marketing hype driven by the companies (as occurs in all industries).

post #6297 of 7930

Well, people would have to work and all... and of course people would have to pay them.

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More new ski cross sections from SKI magazine late winter 1978. White THE SKI is mentioned as a race model. The Volkl Freestyle is intriguing and interesting mention of ISO pole tip design and ski waist width.  And in case there is one person out there that does not realize, you can click on the picture in the original post to make it larger.

 

 

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SKI magazine November 1979 perspective cross section view of new skis. Interesting mention of a 218cm THE SKI downhill. Has anyone ever seen one?

 

      

 

 


Edited by Joal - 4/29/14 at 8:17pm
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Originally Posted by Joal View Post
 

SKI magazine November 1979 perspective cross section view of new skis. Interesting mention of a 218cm THE SKI downhill. Has anyone ever seen one?

 

      

 

 

Nope, but I want a pair. 218's

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