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Gear mentioned in this thread:post #4802 of 791810/20/12 at 3:47pmQuote:
Early 80s Tyrolia 490s were metal, then around 83 or 84m I think, they went to DELRIN, which suffered plastic fatigue and were recalled.post #4803 of 791810/20/12 at 6:26pm
No, don't believe so as in 1980 the 360 series was still standard (that's the year I got mine), 390 came a couple of years later, post 4772 shows add 1985 for the 390 Race bindings, the 490 came later.
If I recall the 90 series was the launch of the upwards release on the toe prior to that it was still side to side.
When the 490's came out I remember thinking, plastic????? Don't buy Tyrolia's as the feel of the pastic was some how kind of cheap?! (What did I know about plastic in those days).
Recall occured 1988 copy attached (sorry you made me interested, and I had to look it up )post #4804 of 791810/20/12 at 6:44pmThread Starterpost #4805 of 791810/20/12 at 7:22pm
Metal Tyrolia 490s (They also came with a heavier spring, but as I only weighed 145 lbs when I got them, I skimped on the springs. Mine go to 10 on the scale, but IIRC, I set them to 11 for insane skiing.) The year after I bought mine, they went to plastic.post #4806 of 791810/21/12 at 4:41am
I only remember the plastic ones (as at the time I wasn't looking for new skis or bindings) But I do remember the plastic toes on the newer versions.
BTW Ghost, The Sign of the Skier is still on Yonge St in Toronto. . I bought my Kerma Poles ('84) there and still use them today (no bends, couple of knicks on the shaft near the baskets). Also bought my wifes Blizzard V20's there with Look bindings early '90's, Nice Kastle SG ski.post #4807 of 791810/21/12 at 7:08amThread StarterQuote:
Tyrolia 490's in a few versions over the years, with varying amounts of metal in their construction;
490RD DIN 14, race version?
490 DIN 12, early
490RD DIN 12, later
And for historical timeline
480, DIN 9
And 390D, DIN10
Edited by Rossi Smash - 10/21/12 at 7:20ampost #4808 of 791810/21/12 at 10:13ampost #4809 of 791810/22/12 at 5:07pmpost #4810 of 791810/22/12 at 5:21pmpost #4811 of 791810/22/12 at 5:33pmQuote:
350 Racing from 1975-76. And who knew, Tyrolia had a plate binding?
1975-76 Tyrolia 350D
1975-76 Tyrolia 350RD
1975-76 Tyrolia PBII
1975-76 Tyrolia 130/190post #4812 of 791810/22/12 at 5:52pmpost #4813 of 791810/22/12 at 6:22pmpost #4814 of 791810/22/12 at 6:32pm
And the Gretsch.
I had the 350 Racing in the photo. Never a complaint. I moved to Marker and Rossi the next season, though.post #4815 of 791810/22/12 at 6:57pmQuote:
yeah, I have some 350D's, 350R's and 360's in the collection. I felt safer skiing the 350R's recently than some newer all plastic bindings that were 20 years newer.post #4816 of 791810/23/12 at 2:19amThread Starterpost #4817 of 791810/23/12 at 5:44ampost #4818 of 791810/23/12 at 6:05ampost #4819 of 791810/23/12 at 8:17ampost #4820 of 791810/23/12 at 8:25ampost #4821 of 791810/23/12 at 9:09amThread Starterpost #4822 of 791810/23/12 at 9:50am
My first set of buckle boots where Trappeurs the required foam injection. Never got the foam, but again I was 12-13 and bought them with my own money, just wore extra socks.
Black and blue boot about '77 (new old stock back then, and they where the best boot sold at the store I bought them). Side note for the Boot Guys...criteria for fit...could I get my foot in, could I pack it out with an extra pair of socks, and could them tighten them down enough. Great boot.post #4823 of 791810/23/12 at 9:57ampost #4824 of 791810/23/12 at 3:09pm
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My father was the spalding ski rep in the early 70's and I grew up skiing 210cm formidables and 195cm Siderals (I recently found a nice pair at a yard sale) Last time my folks moved I found a stack of neon orange original posters with Gustavo Toni racing on them and had one mounted and framed. I can post a pic if this post is still alive.
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Lowellpost #4825 of 791810/23/12 at 3:23pmpost #4826 of 791810/23/12 at 3:58pm
a buddy of mine i still ski with bought the red hansons in '77 or '78 and skied in them 'til the mid-2000's. swore by them even though they flexed like overcooked noodles. i will admit they held up pretty well, but he had to have an intervention among friends to get him to buy a pair of salomon x-waves. i'm sure he's going to wear those forever. the looks he'd get in the liftline when someone spied the color or the buckle-less shape were priceless.post #4827 of 791810/23/12 at 4:25pmpost #4828 of 791810/23/12 at 5:17pm
lived in aspen for two winters starting in '78, and rode a pair of cheap particleboard (no joke) hart skis i bought at a Hermans' warehouse sale before i went out there. the bindings were cheap undersized off-brands i can't even remember the name of. two weeks of thrashing my legs on aspen mountain and the skis cracked on an early-season rock. so i went to a ski shop in town and looked at some heads' and rossis', not knowing one thing about ski design. the salesman showed me a pair of burnt orange olin mark IV's. " the tips are softer so they'll float up in powder and the tails are stiffer to carve in hardpack. it's a great design." and being the gape-mouth breathing amateur i was, i ended up buying them. as a pretty bad skier to begin with, i regressed riding these skis. they weren't terrible in powder, but yes, you still had to weight the backs some to float them up and thigh burn was always an issue. it was like riding the letter "L" with the short side in front. they had no rebound in the bumps, because the flex was so skewed from the front binding to the tips, you couldn't get a decent rhythm going. bell mountain? forget it! a ride down spar or copper gulch was an agonizing thing-the tips would flap uncontrollably until you rode up a sidehill or hit another run of groomed snow. and in the odd event of either really hard snow or any type of crust, you couldn't edge or ride on top of the surface because of "the great design". finally, a friend of mine lent me a pair of ragged -out dynamic VR-17's with look bindings. "killy skis on these! you'll love 'em!" the olins were 180's and the dynas' were 205's. the dynamics had a set of plastic spring-loaded tabs on the front to keep the skis from crossing, or were supposed to. my skiing got better nearly immediately. the skis were battleship-heavy but, at age 21, my greatest talent was being strong as an ox, and once i learned angulation, i could swing the skis down the fall line on any run on the mountain, even though the efficiency factor was not in my favor. not without some hair-raising rides, also. if you sat back for an instant, you were toast, as i found out on corkscrew gully one day. being a shaded run for most of the day, the snow was harder, slicker usually, at least in cold winter temps. i went off-balance for a couple seconds, and catching myself without turning for 50 feet, i rocketed down the huge bump-filled drainage to the catwalk and launched with disastrous results. the run flattened a bit and i slammed onto the snow. because i didn't blow my knee or break my ankle, i believe i hit the snow at an angle, falling on my side and sliding on my back in a pre-hiphop dance spin with both skis finding ways to batter my legs, knees and back while i decelerated. the leashes from the bindings to the boots were the reason. the epitaph for the olins' was a day in may of '78 after the lifts had been closed a month. saturday on the couch with scooby-doo and the patio door facing snowmass. the snow was dropping in blizzard amounts. a question, then an answer and we loaded up the van and drove out to snowmass, parking at a dead end on the mountain. put on our boots wearing blue jeans and gaiters and beat-up powderhorn jackets. i tied my olins to an old boy scout backpack and started walking. 4 hours later, we were at the top of the big burn in 12 to 18 inches of may powder. we hiked over to the closest chute in the Cirque, which was not considered in-bounds at the ski area at that time, but is now. we ripped the run . the mark IV's were great, the run was steep but the surface was flat and gravity with 2 feet of snow did the trick. i've got pictures of that run and a bunch of others. my head, hands and a foot length of my poles partially visible and the whirling smoke of the late-spring powder like a comet tail behind and around me. the displacement of snow under the olins was visible in the pictures, and the skis rode up and planed perfectly. we rode through the trees into a section of dropoffs, the olins riding like a magic carpet. my buddy rode on rossi st comps, a great slalom ski. he made it work in the powder, too. i can honestly say i probably wouldn't have done that on the VR17's. that was the last time i rode the mark IV's, but it was the best time i rode them.post #4829 of 791810/23/12 at 5:20pm
My brother and I were reminiscing this past weekend about going to the BIG annual ski show/expo every year back in the 70s. We would spend the entire day there. We also committed to doing our own retro-day this season - he's going to use his XR-1s. Not sure what I'll use. I'm thinking my 1973 Atomic Dominators since that's the oldest pair of skis I bought new and still own .... haven't skied straight skis since the 90's If I hurt myself, I'm blaming this thread ....
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