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post #3331 of 6418

Those brakes would be easy to replicate. The only problem I see is sourcing the spring............ Nice simple beefy design. You could use up some holes from a previous mounting. wink.gif

post #3332 of 6418

 

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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

Must be strong springs in those brakes. I noticed they were reversed and figured they'd just bend back and not work too well.

The image of skis flying up out of the snow like some breaching sport fish is a little disturbing!  smile.gif


 

That's a very apt description of what happened :-}!

 

 

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Originally Posted by skimalibu View Post

Those brakes would be easy to replicate. The only problem I see is sourcing the spring............ Nice simple beefy design. You could use up some holes from a previous mounting. wink.gif



It's all here, images included:

 

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,152,008.PN.&OS=PN/4,152,008&RS=PN/4,152,008

 

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post #3333 of 6418

There's this dude woman in NL (on our local craigslist) who's trying to sell his her 215cm Kästle RX. Asking price €300 (and has gone down to €250! ROTF.gif). Yeah, right. Anyways, the interesting bit is what's ON the Kästle's. Something I'd forgotten all about: F2 bindings!

 

Kästle RX + F2.png

 

Fun&Function!

 

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I remember lusting *heavily* over these in the 80's! Can't find anything on the web at quick glance, though... Smash?

 

(ducks for the barrage of pics & info Rossi is about to fire off smile.gif)


Edited by jmvdpol - 1/4/11 at 1:35pm
post #3334 of 6418
Thread Starter 

Sorry to let you down here but.........

 

I've never seen these or even heard of them   eek.gif          What's an F2? Euro binding that never made it Stateside? Where were they made?

 

What the hell are they doing on a nice pair of RX's?

post #3335 of 6418

Who will have more on this? Phil or Rossi? or someone else?...

Looks like F2 makes some alpine carving snowboard bindings now.

http://www.alpinecarving.com/binding_model.html#f2

 

that's quite the site for info on that stuff!

post #3336 of 6418
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post

Sorry to let you down here but.........

 

I've never seen these or even heard of them   eek.gif          What's an F2? Euro binding that never made it Stateside? Where were they made?

 

What the hell are they doing on a nice pair of RX's?

 

*Ack!* *Gaarghl!* *Yelp!* (effect on average Old Skool Gear devotee when half-gods like Smash draw a blank tongue.gif).

 

Must be the case they never got to your side of the pond! As far as I recall, in the 80's they were very, very upmarket, high tech stuff. Plate ski bindings, but also surfboards. Kinda what Audi is to Volkswagen, F2 was to Mistral. German firm. Still in business it would appear at www.f2.com.

 

I'll dig around some more...

 

 

post #3337 of 6418
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

Who will have more on this? Phil or Rossi? or someone else?...

Looks like F2 makes some alpine carving snowboard bindings now.

http://www.alpinecarving.com/binding_model.html#f2

 

that's quite the site for info on that stuff!


That's not what's on the RX's, indeed.

 

Hmmm. It is proving very hard to find additional info :-|

post #3338 of 6418

the SKI for sale.  not mine, just thought some here might be interested.

 

Royal

 

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=9593961&cat=414&lpid=&search=

post #3339 of 6418
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Originally Posted by royal View Post

the SKI for sale.  not mine, just thought some here might be interested.

 

Royal

 

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=9593961&cat=414&lpid=&search=

Those look like Fred Kunz's old skis. 
 

post #3340 of 6418
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Quote:
Originally Posted by royal View Post

the SKI for sale.  not mine, just thought some here might be interested.

 

Royal

 

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=9593961&cat=414&lpid=&search=

Those look like Fred Kunz's old skis. 
 

I was waiting for someone to notice the name. too funny.

 

Royal

post #3341 of 6418

Did someone say RX? rx.jpg

post #3342 of 6418
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Originally Posted by skimalibu View Post

Did someone say RX? rx.jpg



I am looking for some of those bindings. 

post #3343 of 6418

Oh yeah......Why would the man that has everything want a pair of these?...I think I have a pair of regular M40s loose if that helps. Don't recall their condition.

I removed these bindings to clean them and found the skis are feather light and all the weight was in the bindings. Can't wait to ski them.

post #3344 of 6418
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Originally Posted by skimalibu View Post

Did someone say RX? rx.jpg


I could use that ski bag.

post #3345 of 6418

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Originally Posted by GhostView Post

I could use that ski bag.

 That one is not available
 

post #3346 of 6418

Thar she blows:

 

 

Better in the garage than on the slopes.

 

Best with sound on!

 

post #3347 of 6418
Thread Starter 

Nice.....

 

Replace it with a 747 Equipe (all metal) biggrin.gif

 

 

S747 Equipe.jpg

post #3348 of 6418

More Saturday Thrift Shop excitement:

 

YamahaShort.jpg

 

Yamaha Short 160's.  Salomon 444's.  Guessing early 70's?

Great condition too, another $5 well spent.

 

 

Real skis have center grooves.........

post #3349 of 6418
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Originally Posted by stvbck View Post

Thar she blows:

 

 

Better in the garage than on the slopes.

 

Best with sound on!

 

 

We need this on a sticky handy for all those.. nonono2.gif"the ski shop won't adjust my old bindings, why shouldn't I keep using them anyway?"

 

They really do seem to always blow when stepping in instead of when actually skiing on them though.th_dunno-1[1].gif
 

post #3350 of 6418

True, and I've got at least 3 pairs of Equipe's laying around.  Could have used them on my 5500's which had the plastic 747's which exploded, but instead used Tyrolia 650R demo bindings to make it easier to share.  I'm sure they'll get put to use.

 

BTW, how old are Tyrolia 570's?  (They're on some Dynastar CMS Course skis)

 

post #3351 of 6418

Christmas two week demo extravaganza:  Reviews on 9 pairs of only the best skis that flea markets can offer.

 

skisn77.jpg

 

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Not pictured, Rossignol 4S 195.

 

Rossi ST Comps (190)  Nothing particularly titillating here, smooth turns, poor edge grip.  No excitement.  Poor performance possibly due to 20 years of accumulated edge rust whilst in the attic, but at least the mud wasp nests are gone.

 

K2 244 MID (195)  These were impressive.  Might be the fact they still have a good tune.  Great crud buster, plows through anything as long as there is a solid base underneath.  Best skied fast, quick turning.  O.K. in powder, but can't hold a candle to the Hexcel's (see below)

 

K2 Comp 710 (200)  Stiff!   A 2x4 with edges would be a friendlier ski.  No, I'm not going to take them up to 50mph to get them to turn.  Bad, naughty ski!  Back to the attic and the mud wasps.

 

K2 5500 (204)  There's potential here for a nice cruising ski should dull edges be sharpened.  Into the "to tune" pile, especially as my identical 5500's (185) I like very much.

 

Daiwa 747 (200)  These go into the "permanent display with fishing gear attached" pile.  Perhaps with a tune they would have less a mind of their own as to direction of travel. 

 

Pre M5-A (200)  Sweet!  Fast, fast, fast.  Two mile run, two turns.  O.K., maybe four turns.  Solid.  Ten minutes up, 20 seconds down.  Definite keeper.  Of course, the fact these skis have an immaculate race tune may be a contributing factor.

 

Dynastar Course SL (200)  See Rossi St  Comp review above.  Darn that edge rust!

 

Hexcelerators (185)  Still awaiting test.  Have to get some work done, if only to keep my pass.

 

Rossignol 4S (195)  Another winner.  Damp, smooth, easy to turn, fun ski.  Now looking for a 4S in >200 length.  Not solid at speed like the Pre M5-A, and not a crud buster like the K2 244 MID, but a great ski from first chair to closing bell.

 

Hexcel Ultrasport (210)  And the best for last.  Still astonished at how much fun these boards are in powder and chop, the deeper the better.  Light weight + soft flex = powder ski!  Yes, they're more work than 110cm underfoot, and require speed to float, but they are also more fun.  Something about the feel of the turn on long boards in powder, somehow "more real".  (More face shots, too!) Just keep the feet together.   I now grab these first on powder days, ski them in the a.m., then switch to modern gear in the afternoon.  Even moderate bumps are very doable.  Best $5 ever spent!  Remarkable ski.

 

Stay tuned for the next esoteric collection of retro gear on the way to the slopes, preparations are in progress.

 

 

 

post #3352 of 6418
Thread Starter 

stvbck,

 

I think it's time to get busy on the tuning bench. The ST Comp and Course SL deserve better! Althought I think the ST650 it replaces was a better ski. I very much like the 4S (200cm), in fact it's one of my 80's favorites.

 

I really like your binding choice on the top three pair  biggrin.gif

 

Sounds like you had some fun over the holidays....must have had some interesting comments on the chair too!

post #3353 of 6418
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Originally Posted by skimalibu View Post

Did someone say RX? rx.jpg


Beautiful! Wish I had that bag :-P

post #3354 of 6418
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Originally Posted by stvbck View Post

Thar she blows:


 

Better in the garage than on the slopes.

 

Best with sound on!

 

 

So, what exactly gives way, here? The whole back end?

 

post #3355 of 6418
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post

stvbck,

 

I think it's time to get busy on the tuning bench. The ST Comp and Course SL deserve better! Althought I think the ST650 it replaces was a better ski. I very much like the 4S (200cm), in fact it's one of my 80's favorites.

 

I really like your binding choice on the top three pair  biggrin.gif

 

Sounds like you had some fun over the holidays....must have had some interesting comments on the chair too!



 Dr. Smash,

 

  Could you give us a list of your top SIX favorite skis. I've been wanting to ask you for some time. Also what brand and model bindings do you favor?

post #3356 of 6418

Yes, here are some examples:

 

brokenbinding.jpg

 

Sometimes they fail at random while in storage.  Plastic shelf life.

post #3357 of 6418

The next batch is ready.  Good thing I drive a pickup........

 

Skisbatch2.jpg

 

Found a price tag under the binding on the Pre M6's:

 

Preprice.jpg

 

Every day is demo day.

 

post #3358 of 6418
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Originally Posted by stvbck View Post

Yes, here are some examples:

 

brokenbinding.jpg

 

Sometimes they fail at random while in storage.  Plastic shelf life.


Ok. So far I've only had all-metal bindings, hence my surprise.

post #3359 of 6418
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Originally Posted by stvbck View Post

The next batch is ready.  Good thing I drive a pickup........

 

Skisbatch2.jpg

 


 


 

What's that you've got bolted onto the lovely, lovely P9's, as well as on those Dynastar Course SL (as per previous dumpsterdiving post)? Could it be my shought-after binding solution? I.e.: an identical base plate on all my ski's and a set of bindings I can shift around at will? Do tell!

post #3360 of 6418

the K2s had 4 t-nuts in the sole that would allow adjusting the angle of the Zeppa in any direction,  ramp, varus angle, whatever!  what an idea.  buckles lasted less than 2 hours!

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