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Spademan Binding Info?

post #1 of 71
Thread Starter 
Alright, who's a former (or current!) user of Spademan bindings? How many different versions were there? Different plates?

How about an ID on the two models below????
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post #2 of 71
I have a pair of the top pair that I plan on putting on a pair of 'The Ski" once I find some butterflies or ideally rental plates. I really don't know the difference or geniology of the bindings you are showing. I do know that later years of the S7 and S9 get into the shorter springs and integrated brakes.
post #3 of 71
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
I have a pair of the top pair that I plan on putting on a pair of 'The Ski" once I find some butterflies or ideally rental plates. I really don't know the difference or geniology of the bindings you are showing. I do know that later years of the S7 and S9 get into the shorter springs and integrated brakes.
I saw a pair of rental plates on eBay last month. The bidding started at $150.00: Just for the plates, no bindings.
post #4 of 71
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
I saw a pair of rental plates on eBay last month. The bidding started at $150.00: Just for the plates, no bindings.
Saw them too, not for me.

I will try to trade for them
post #5 of 71
None of those have the goofy reset button in the middle, at the A?
post #6 of 71
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None of those have the goofy reset button in the middle, at the A?
I don't think that came around till the short spring step in's.
post #7 of 71
I learned to ski at Greek Peak during college on bindings that looked a lot like those. We had LEATHER rental boots. Actually, there were about three pairs of plastic boots, but if you weren't the first one off the bus you didn't have a chance at them.

The bindings came off every time I fell. I tried tightening them, didn't make any difference.
post #8 of 71
Thread Starter 

Found this...

Add from back in the day.....

and how about these "other" plate binding systems from 1973!
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post #9 of 71
This was a classic product tat was a brilliant idea but poorly executed.

The concept of a superlight binding that had no affect on ski flex and released in every conceivable direction- including straight down the ski! was pretty innovative. but the problems were many.

First was the plate that was mounted to the boot- in those days the soles were not so standard and the plates required a lot of boot modification to mount- lots of clever uses of epoxy! Especially with Hansons. They also made walking dangerous but were great for boot skiing.

Since all the binding holes were located in such a concentrated area (usually were there was no internal ski binding reinforcement) they often ripped right out of the ski- I cannot tell you how many times I saw the binding still attached to the boot. Or it would stay on the ski and rip the sole off the boot as seen many times with the Scott boots. Spademand later came out with a plate attachment so you did not have to uses the "butterfly" but that mad the whole thing too cumbersome and it slowly died away.

I do like the 1973 ad above- perhaps the first time the term "Extreme Skier" was used?
post #10 of 71
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Saw them too, not for me.

I will try to trade for them
Caberfae used to have those on their rental skis. I put a call in to Pete to see if he had some laying around in the dungeon. I'm sure he'll swap me a few of them for a pump tank job. What's in it for me
post #11 of 71

Thats a blast from the past!

Rossi Smash,

The particular version(s) you have there were used as rentals a lot in the mid-70's. I had a set of plates somewhere but after looking just can't find them or I would have just given them to you. Sorry. As long as your not a heavy person, they should work for you if you plan to use 'em. I'll bet a metal shop could machine plates for you - worst case - with just a photo of an original and taking the measurements off of the binding itself.

That was cool to see those again!!
post #12 of 71
If you want, I have an image of the boot plate PM me with your email and I'll shoot it over to you. Also, you got me interested so I did a quick search and ebay has the strengthening plates for $9.99 buy it now price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Spademan-Ski-Bin...QQcmdZViewItem

Good luck...
post #13 of 71
While in college in the late 70s I worked in a shop that sold Spademan bindings. We had two models, standard and race. The race binding were black with a bigger spring.

Mounting Spademan plates to the boot was a real pain on any boots that had a gap between the toe and heel. (Fortunately, most boots back then didn't.) Spademan provided a putty to fill the gap with but it had zero structural integrity so you had to make sure the screws were long enough to penetrate the boot. In some cases the boots weren't strong enough where the screws penetrated so you had to get creative using bolts & nuts. The putty itself tended to shatter when cold so we would mix in steel wool to help keep it in one piece.
post #14 of 71
Last time I checked my folks still had some of their old skis/bindings laying around.

Dad's included Hexcel something or anothers mounted with Burt bindings. I think that about that time he made the switch from the Raichle boots that split down the middle to Hanson's. His life was miserable if he forgot the silicone spray I can't remember which bindings are on his Head 360's

Mom had Hart Hornets withe Gertsch bindings.
post #15 of 71

Gaaa!!!!

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Originally Posted by SkiMerlin View Post
Last time I checked my folks still had some of their old skis/bindings laying around.

Dad's included Hexcel something or anothers mounted with Burt bindings. I think that about that time he made the switch from the Raichle boots that split down the middle to Hanson's. His life was miserable if he forgot the silicone spray I can't remember which bindings are on his Head 360's

Mom had Hart Hornets withe Gertsch bindings.
When I was teaching at Breckenridge, the only thing I hated more than Spademan bindings was Burt bindings...and I seem to remember that Gertsch bindings were similarly reprehensible. Didn't Allsop also make bindings that were better left unsold? Americana bindings? Anybody got any pictures of these techno wonders, so we can all take a trip down Memory Lane?
post #16 of 71
Thread Starter 

Plate Bindings

here you go...
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post #17 of 71
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Originally Posted by SkiMerlin View Post

Mom had Hart Hornets withe Gertsch bindings.
I'd love to see a pair of those!
post #18 of 71
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Originally Posted by SkiRacer55 View Post
When I was teaching at Breckenridge, the only thing I hated more than Spademan bindings was Burt bindings...and I seem to remember that Gertsch bindings were similarly reprehensible. Didn't Allsop also make bindings that were better left unsold? Americana bindings? Anybody got any pictures of these techno wonders, so we can all take a trip down Memory Lane?
Yes, actually there is a picture of an Americana binding in this thread.

I have Burt bindings which I like a lot. The re-centering is unmatched.

I'm a big fan of plate bindings. I've been using a variation of the Besser plate bindings (made by Voilé) exclusively for over tern years.
post #19 of 71
When I was at Timber Hill back in the 70's we had Americana as rental bindings..Plastic crap.
post #20 of 71
My plastic bindings do more than your metal ones.
post #21 of 71
Thread Starter 

Spademan with Rental Plate

sweet....
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post #22 of 71
Thread Starter 

Last generation Spademan w/brake

I think this was their last try to hang on....
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post #23 of 71
we have to talk. We will be talking trade.
post #24 of 71

spademan

Skied the Spademan's in Sun Valley in the mid -seventies. Used them with Autheir skis (204's) . I finally had to abandon the Spademan's because I was breaking skis every other day. I'd get replacement skis from Sturdevant's but if I broke a ski in the morning it took most of the day to get the new set up...and by that time there was an hour max left in the day.I liked them because they were light and at the time trendy. But my boots were big 'ol orange Hansons and they weighed a ton. Go figure. Buddy Hackett skied there, too and he skied on the Burt's. The hot lick then was the Scott boot with Spademan's. I ended up using Saloman 555's and never had any more breakage problems.

John Brewer
Portland Oregon
post #25 of 71
Some of my first days skiing were at Sugar Bowl on rental Spademans. I hated them. The plate had to be perfectly clear of snow and ice to engage the binding and as a beginner who fell a bunch on the sticky Sierra cement it was not fun. Sit down, scrape plate, try and stand up and not let boot touch snow, repeat.
post #26 of 71
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Originally Posted by brewer22 View Post
Skied the Spademan's in Sun Valley in the mid -seventies. Used them with Autheir skis (204's) . I finally had to abandon the Spademan's because I was breaking skis every other day. I'd get replacement skis from Sturdevant's but if I broke a ski in the morning it took most of the day to get the new set up...and by that time there was an hour max left in the day.I liked them because they were light and at the time trendy. But my boots were big 'ol orange Hansons and they weighed a ton. Go figure. Buddy Hackett skied there, too and he skied on the Burt's. The hot lick then was the Scott boot with Spademan's. I ended up using Saloman 555's and never had any more breakage problems.

John Brewer
Portland Oregon
But with "The Ski":
post #27 of 71
<<<But with "The Ski":>>>

Yep. And if you want to get really retro; the solid blue ones,BEFORE the colored rectangles showed up.

john brewer
post #28 of 71
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But with "The Ski":
Nope, Spademans were best on Hexcel skis.
post #29 of 71
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Nope, Spademans were best on Hexcel skis.
Naw, +1 for The Ski with Scott Boots and Vuarnet glasses

Hexels didn't hold Spademanns well since they only had four screws to hold them on to that honeycomb core, not enough epoxy in the world to shoot on those holes
post #30 of 71
Spademans on 165 cm Olin Mk IV with Scott boots.

Rock on!
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