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post #1 of 5
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I'm looking to impove in some of my prefered areas of skiing:-

1. Medium radius turn on crud
2. Powder

I realise these are only short clips but any feedback would be invaluable...


Many Thanks

post #2 of 5
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hopefully admin would be so kind as to move it to the ski instruction & coaching section.
post #3 of 5
What did you wish to improve? You appear to handle both circumstances comfortably.

If you want critiques, you might observe your shoulders/hands and note that most of the turn entries incorporate a slight twist of the torso toward the turn. I'd guess that if the crud or slope is more challenging the twisting becomes more pronounced. This is something that working on pivot slips (there's lots of stuff in the archives on pivot slips) would help with.

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post #4 of 5

This clip shows excellent adaptation from soft snow to deeper snow by staying more in the fall line, slowing down the turning movements and making shallower turns. In the first part of the clip, we can see a lot of the signs of an advanced zone skier: a functional stance width, centered balance and some separation of the upper and lower body both laterally (angulation) and rotationally (counter).

Your greatest amount of counter is happening in the fall line. We'd like to see that point be opposite of that (i.e. greatest counter when the skis go across the hill versus down the hill).

Here's a pic of you going across the hill, just before you start a turn.

The red line show where your shoulders are pointed, the blue line shows where your skis are pointed and the white line shows where your boots are pointed. Normally I talk about the skis and shoulders pointing in the same direction, but because you're going over a little bump, the skis pointing up makes this harder to see. But you can clearly see that the feet and the upper body are pointing in the same direction.

This frame is from the middle of that turn. Now you can see that the skis and the shoulder are pointing in different directions.

How you get into this position is interesting. In the previous turn (from 4-5 seconds), it's easier to see that you steer your feet in order to get the ski edges to engage. Below is the after picture. Watch the turn in slow motion to see what I'm talking about.

Here's the next right turn at 8 seconds. This showing a good position.

From this position, you can do a lot of good things if you are just patient and let the skis do the work. From this position, I want you to start counting before you do anything consciously to get out of the fall line. Start with "1000-one", then turn and work up to "1000-three", then turn.

The second trick that will help your turns is move the point of max counter. If you start with the above exercise, your skis will be turning you across the fall line instead of your feet turning the skis across. As you get to the last part of the turn, start letting the skis keep turning while you resist turning your upper body with them. This is letting the skis steer into
counter instead of having your feet steer into counter. An exercise you can do to feel this is to simply traverse across the hill and turn uphill simply by rolling your knees and ankle into the hill. Don't let your shoulders turn with the skis. Keep them pointing in the same direction as when you started.

Now let's take at pole usage.

Uh oh. Busted! When you don't use your pole touch to initiate forward movement into the new turn, your hands are going to get lazy now and then, they'll get caught up and you'll get yanked around like you are here. If you do steps 1 and 2 above, you'll be ready to take advantage of forward movement that can be triggered by a pole swing into the new turn (step 3). If you move your body forward as you swing the pole forward, you'll also be moving your skis onto the new edges much earlier in the turn than you do in this clip. Then a wonderful thing will happen. You will turn around the pole instead of moving past it and having it yank you around it. An exercise you can for this movement works best on a groomed trail. From a stopped position with the skis pointing across the fall line, reach out as far as you can with your down hill pole and touch a point directly downhill from your skis, then stand back up. Now try to make a pole touch 18 inches below the point that you touched. In order to do it, you'll need to roll your skis flat and let them start to slip down the hill. In order to stay balanced while this is happening, you need to move with the skis forward and down the hill. That's the movement we're looking for.

So now you have a 3 step program to take your skiing to the next level: let the skis turn you, create counter at the top of the turn and move with your pole when you swing it. When you're in powder these same moves are done slower and with less intensity, but to the extent that you own these moves in crud, you'll also see your powder skiing become even more effortless.
post #5 of 5
Thread Starter 
Many thanks to Kneale Brownson and Rusty for the advice i will go out and work on some things tomorrow and compair the new and old.

again many thanks

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