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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
(maybe this was asked before, but I could not find it)

On most Head skis they have the Intelligence system. While I like the name of it (hey, there's nothing wrong with having a good conversation with your skis right? ), I was wondering if it actually works. I really like the concept of it since sometimes I ski slowly when I am with my girlfriend or just plain tired and sometimes I put a lot of strength on the ski because I am quite heavy. Maybe I am cynical, but it's a little suspect they already have it in their cheap line.

So I was wondering what the experience is of people having (tried) an intelligent Head and if you really noticed it working? So far I have not read a review where the system is mentioned.
post #2 of 16
The technology was introduced 5 years ago. There was a discussion at the time. Regarding that Intelligence can’t be switched off, there is no way to compare behavior of the skis with and without it. Personally, I believe that Head skis are great because they are great. Intelligence technology is just a gimmick.
post #3 of 16
As stekan said, it's been around in Head skis for quite a while now. My general opinion is that it works, but I don't know how much of an effect it has. In the end I don't think it really matters. There are some really great Head skis, and whether that's from the Intelligence system or other aspects of the construction doesn't really matter to me - they're great skis either way.

I can say that in the past few years Head has produced a few models that only differ in having the Intelligence Chip vs. normal Intelligence fibers, and there's definitely a noticeable difference there. I wouldn't say it's good or bad, just different.
post #4 of 16
I have had several Head's with this I thinggy. I still have a few pair.
One pair is soft. I think on these it must work. I could not imagine a ski that soft even being skiiable for me. At all. I am fairly strong,weigh 215. It DOES NOT make that ski perform the way I want it too. Stiffen it up enough. LOL..it sure must be a flappin' some anyway. It's a FUN ski for me though. With a lighter touch it is a light easy ride for me that is stable enough at normal speeds. I am VERY impressed with this ski overall..considerring it's softness. I gotta admit..I can bully this thing around though. I don't ski it that much..just doesn't have enough beef. And the I thing don't give it enough. With this ski I think the I thing works.
Pair 2 is an I Race WC 188. I can't imagine this ski being flexed fast enough/maybe deep enough for this gizmo to work at normal speeds. I dunno though maybe it is working?? once I get it rolling. Or maybe I don't have the guts to get it going that fast. More likely. I have been on enough skis that got to a flappin'/chatterin'. Fast/subtle vibrations that build up. Fischer made a big deal of their "frequency tuning" As somone has mentioned. How would you compare it to a ski without it?
Other Head's I have skied/owned with it/without it. I dunno if it worked or not.

I really like Head skis! But this easy to ski at slow speeds and a great high performance ski. Naaa. Or easy to ski at slow speeds WITH a gizmo..THEN a great high performance ski. Naaa. Head or otherwise.
I would buy the ski that satisfies the most of your skiing. Or buy 2 or 3 pairs.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the comments, there is a very good chance I am going to try some Heads .

Arnold, just curious, what ski is that soft one you are talking about? (being 215lbs as well).
post #6 of 16
I've had several i Heads (also a couple of their tennis racquets that also use i) and I find a distinct effect at higher speeds, not much at lower. My Supershapes have an 11.4 radius, don't like running off-edge, so should be unstable above 25 or 30 mph. Nope. You can feel them stiffen as you pick up speed, really start to bend them, they love big radius arcs at 35-40 mph. Same story with iM82's except higher speeds all around, and the increasing stiffness can get harsh if it's really icy.
post #7 of 16
I’ve skied recently Elan Race SL model 08/09. Excellent in both short and wide turns. Very stabile at high speed with excellent edge hold. Is that because of WaveFlex technology? Don’t think so. I like also several Fischer models. Are they good because of FT (Frequency Tuning) technology? Maybe.
FT, WaveFlex and Intelligence are just marketing tools. Every brand must have something to distinguish from the others.
post #8 of 16
I don't know anything of this satired Intelligence, but I did ride a Liquid Metal lay up.

I want... badly. It's smoother than anything I have ever ridden.

(Soon to be in my quiver = Head WC GS for piste days.)
post #9 of 16
Samuri, FWIW, current Superhapes and Monsters have BOTH liquid metal (metallic mesh+film) and Intelligence (metal fibers that stiffen when bent). LQ supposed to give dampness and stiffness, i supposed to keep the ski smooth and in control as you speed up by stiffening it progressively. I'm more impressed with Intelligence tech than LQ.
post #10 of 16
My chipped intellifiber skis are the best skis I own (as far as performance) and can easily hang with my race stock GS skis (only intellifibers) even at mach schnell.
post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
Samuri, FWIW, current Superhapes and Monsters have BOTH liquid metal (metallic mesh+film) and Intelligence (metal fibers that stiffen when bent). LQ supposed to give dampness and stiffness, i supposed to keep the ski smooth and in control as you speed up by stiffening it progressively. I'm more impressed with Intelligence tech than LQ.
Does the 09 WC GS have both?

Whatever it was, that ski was nuts. I can't explain that silk. I've been skiing for 31 winters and have never felt something like that.

It was also my first head... :

Either way, I like it.
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by samurai View Post
Does the 09 WC GS have both?

Whatever it was, that ski was nuts. I can't explain that silk. I've been skiing for 31 winters and have never felt something like that.

It was also my first head... :

Either way, I like it.
Yes, it does have both intelligence and liquid metal. They are silky smooth, that WC GS is a great on-piste carver. I would love a pair as well

Even the 180's I skied were super easy and ridiculously stable, even for someone of my light weight.

Although, you should try the Elan GSX Fusion: it has a slightly more snappy feel, but I think it is even more stable as a carver. Just a thrilling ski!

With regards to the intelligence making a difference: it is hard to say, as there aren't any skis with and without intelligence fibers. But, the Mojo 94, which doesn't have the Intelligence fibers, only sandwich construction, doesn't really feel similar to the iM88, which does. I have no idea if this is due to construction differences or lack of intelligence, but if indeed it was the same layup, it might say something about intelligence fibers.
post #13 of 16
Never skied Heads (what do you expect from a 15 year old, only ran through 3 pairs of skis that were mine (not rented)), but from what my friends say, and from what I've read Heads are pretty good skis. My opinion on this matter is that you should buy skis because you like them and they are good, not because they have fancy technology (with extra fancy names).

And a little personal note, iSupershape Speeds are one of my most wanted skis.
post #14 of 16
cheers, dawg. I'll try the Elan given the chance. If it feels as wet as the Head, it'll be quite the competition.
post #15 of 16
Liquid Metal is a trademark for a new type of crystal structure in a type of steel. The stuff was developed for a variety of industrial and manufacturing purposes. It supposedly is very springy-- when it is bent and then released, it returns more of the energy that was put into when bending. (Wouldn't you think this would be the wrong thing to put into such a damp ski? Go figure.) Head was smart enough to try it, and liking it, they buy it from the manufacturer, persumably with a discount because of the free advertising on the top of the ski. You can research this on the web.

Intelligence apparently refers to the type of ceramic fibers with piezoelectric properties that convert mechanical energy into electrical. I haven't learned what happens to the electrical energy, but apparently it can be returned to the fibers to stiffen them, perhaps moments later, to result in damping down motion. The ski and fibers within cannot know how fast the ski is moving down the slope, so there cannot be an increased effect at higher speeds per se. But dampening the ski will be more noticeable at higher speeds because at higher speeds the ski flexes more quickly, which is more dampen-able. These are also manufactured by companies with no connection to sporting gear, and they have many applications for dampening harmonic motion in manufactured items. Head was just smart enough to use the stuff (as was K2 if you remember the little LED that lit up on the top of some models 10 years ago).
post #16 of 16
Then there are the intelligent models with the chip which amplifies the energy return from the fibers.

Speaking of Liquidemetal, my Sandisk SANSA Mp3 player has a back cover made from the stuff...no association to Head.
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