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post #1 of 21
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Hi, was looking at the Line Chronics or blends. Not sure what size to get or what one ? I have been skiing 20+ years and grew up on long boards. Went from 195 to 186 to 174 now on my recons. Guy in the ski shop said I should go with the 172. Seems really short to me. I am 5'10 180 lbs agressive skier 99.9% east coast skier (Vermont)

Thanks
Brian
post #2 of 21
172 is short. Take whatever you ski on in a normal ski and add about 5 cm on it for what you'll lose in running surface because of the upturned tail. I used to ski 195-205 in straight skis, went down to 185-190 in the 1st gen shaped skis, and have settled at about 175-180 now. I had some twins @ 174, 175, 178, & 182 and they all skied short - I should have gone one size bigger in all of them.
post #3 of 21
AGree with Axebiker. I have a pair of last year's Chronic Blend that I will sell you if you want them. I've skied them about 4 times....I am simply skiing a wider ski as an everyday ski now. They are 179s and Have Rosi Axial 2 bindings...let me know if you're interested..just PM me. They're a good ski.
post #4 of 21
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Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
172 is short. Take whatever you ski on in a normal ski and add about 5 cm on it for what you'll lose in running surface because of the upturned tail. I used to ski 195-205 in straight skis, went down to 185-190 in the 1st gen shaped skis, and have settled at about 175-180 now. I had some twins @ 174, 175, 178, & 182 and they all skied short - I should have gone one size bigger in all of them.
You came from the same place as me with the ski sizes I could not believe how many sizes I went down !! So I think I am going with the longer ski. I know I can handle it.

Locknload: Appreciate the offer but I like to buy new or never used. Call me spoiled How do you like the blends ? Was thinking them or the Chronics. Are they half way decent in the bumps ? I will pretty much use them as an all around ski. I have to say I hate the recons in the bumbs. I bought them with the intergrated binding and I am starting to realize I am not to fond of it. Still a kick as ski.
post #5 of 21
You should really consider the Line Prophet 90 or 100 - it's more all-mt than the chronic & blend which are more pipe specific.
post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
You should really consider the Line Prophet 90 or 100 - it's more all-mt than the chronic & blend which are more pipe specific.
How do you think they are in the bumps. I don't want a mogul specific ski but want something that will do what I need in there. You think the 90 would handle that ? I thought the Chronic or Blend would be better. Smaller waist.
post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by bmg97 View Post
How do you think they are in the bumps. I don't want a mogul specific ski but want something that will do what I need in there. You think the 90 would handle that ? I thought the Chronic or Blend would be better. Smaller waist.
They are a stiffer ski, therefore then "all-mt" category. They might be a handful in the bumps, and yes, the waist is wider.

With that said my Rossi Scratch FS had an 84mm waist, and were the best skis I've used in the bumps. I guess it really depends on the skier. Hopefully the Chronics and Blends hold together better than they once did - they did have de-lam problems in the past. I haven't heard anything negative on the Prophet, and I'd love to get a pair. My buddy skis on those skis all winter long in all conditions, but he's not a bump guy. Neither am I.
post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
They are a stiffer ski, therefore then "all-mt" category. They might be a handful in the bumps, and yes, the waist is wider.

With that said my Rossi Scratch FS had an 84mm waist, and were the best skis I've used in the bumps. I guess it really depends on the skier. Hopefully the Chronics and Blends hold together better than they once did - they did have de-lam problems in the past. I haven't heard anything negative on the Prophet, and I'd love to get a pair. My buddy skis on those skis all winter long in all conditions, but he's not a bump guy. Neither am I.
I read something about the lam. I think they took care of the problem. I actually heard that K2 makes Line. I am not really a bump guy anymore but when I am in there I want the skis to preform the way I want. I am really starting to get into the park thing. Is more fun then I expected !! Before I came to this stupid forum thought I could get by on one pair of skis as I have my whole life. Now I feel I need at least three pairs !!!! Think I am going to buy them and mount my sali bindings from my old Rossi 7M's. Saving money on the bindings will make me feel like its a smart purchase
post #9 of 21
Yeah, I've heard they worked on that issue, but I don't know too many people riding them. Most guys I know on Line's are on the Prophet or SFB.

Which bindings? Be careful about older Sali's on skis you'll be using in the park - if they're older and plastic, you might be asking for trouble. Look PX12's seem to be the choice for jibbers. Pretty bomber and hold like mad.
post #10 of 21
BMG97,

No problem at all....i hear ya on new skis. They are decent in the bumps...but a bit stiff. They are just too short for me...I need more ski underneath me. You might do well with the P-90 or the Blend...I think for bumps you probably don't want a ski with a much bigger waist than 90mm. My Gots will do bumps..but if they're tight...it is a bit of work. I'm currently using the PEs for bump exclusive stuff...but even those feel a bit short for me. On one of the other threads I was talking about how I'm considering the Mojo 90 as a good, everyday ski to include the bumps. So many skis and so little time.... This season, I was in so much fresh snow that I rode my Gots almost every day (22 days so far)....
post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
Yeah, I've heard they worked on that issue, but I don't know too many people riding them. Most guys I know on Line's are on the Prophet or SFB.

Which bindings? Be careful about older Sali's on skis you'll be using in the park - if they're older and plastic, you might be asking for trouble. Look PX12's seem to be the choice for jibbers. Pretty bomber and hold like mad.
Very glad you said that. I have to take a look. They have been in the attic for like 5 years Cant get rid of old equipment for some reason !!!
post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by locknload View Post
BMG97,

No problem at all....i hear ya on new skis. They are decent in the bumps...but a bit stiff. They are just too short for me...I need more ski underneath me. You might do well with the P-90 or the Blend...I think for bumps you probably don't want a ski with a much bigger waist than 90mm. My Gots will do bumps..but if they're tight...it is a bit of work. I'm currently using the PEs for bump exclusive stuff...but even those feel a bit short for me. On one of the other threads I was talking about how I'm considering the Mojo 90 as a good, everyday ski to include the bumps. So many skis and so little time.... This season, I was in so much fresh snow that I rode my Gots almost every day (22 days so far)....
Yea I was looking at the 90. Saw them for a decent price. I really wanted the blend because the way they market it .... makes me feel like it was made for me (that's gay) Anyway.... I also saw the PE for a very good price. If you say they are half way decent in the bumps then I can deal. I hear ya on the short ski thing. I don't want to short of a ski. The guy told me 172 and I was like I don't really think so. Thats like skiing on a 165 (my first ski size when I was 10) I was thinking around a 178 to 181 or so should be okay. I swear when I started skiing there was like 5 ski companies. You really right with the so little time so many skis !!!!

P.S. THink I logged like 30 days this year !!! & still going
post #13 of 21
BMG97
I just bought some new unmounted 186 cm Line Prophet 90s on E-bay. I am just your size, but am an older guy (51) and do not jump and live in the Washington. I was thinking some softer flatback ski like a Watea might suit me better. Would you be interested in buying them? I paid $350 for them (just last week). I would sell them for that + shipping.
post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
172 is short. Take whatever you ski on in a normal ski and add about 5 cm on it for what you'll lose in running surface because of the upturned tail. I used to ski 195-205 in straight skis, went down to 185-190 in the 1st gen shaped skis, and have settled at about 175-180 now. I had some twins @ 174, 175, 178, & 182 and they all skied short - I should have gone one size bigger in all of them.
axebiker,
Excellent info! I'm around the height and weight as bmg97, so your info is perfect.

I skiied a 200 GS ski back in the day. I'm on 188 (early style, 1997-98) shaped ski now. A sales person at a ski store recently told me a 165 would be OK. I thought that would be way way way too short. Glad to hear my hunch was correct.

Also, good info on twin tips here. I'm looking for a good all mountain ski. I'm learning that twin tips aren't just for the park. :
post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by Crystalite View Post
BMG97
I just bought some new unmounted 186 cm Line Prophet 90s on E-bay. I am just your size, but am an older guy (51) and do not jump and live in the Washington. I was thinking some softer flatback ski like a Watea might suit me better. Would you be interested in buying them? I paid $350 for them (just last week). I would sell them for that + shipping.
hey thanks !! let me think about it. I am really torn on what ski to get. I know I want a line but not sure.... Chronic, BLEND, or 90. I am really leaning torward the Blend. But something tells me it is a 90 in disguise !! I am not sure on the length. Your 186 would be like a 180. I know I can handle that but not sure if that will hurt or help ? TO F'in confusing.
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by Glenn J View Post
I'm looking for a good all mountain ski. I'm learning that twin tips aren't just for the park. :
This is VERY true. If I lived somewhere other than the Midwaste, I'd probably be on twins all the time, and probably something larger than 85mm at the waist. I found them to be good on all but the hardest snow, and I could use them for anything except the hardest carving, which is about all we have to do out here on our little hills. I ended up selling them and went back to skis that were great on ice. I still have one set - Rossi Scratch BC's @ 178cm, but I really wish I had them in a 185 or so.

Twins really brought out my "A" game - they inspired confidence (for me), and I skied stuff I normally would tend to stay away from. I found them very stable, and pretty light compared to the usual GS-style ski I've been on all these years. I'll probably keep them on my list of stuff to keep an eye out for though. Unfortunately with the economy being how it is, my travelling opportunities are drying up a bit - which was part of the reason I sold most of my twins. I realized I was going to be skiing more here than there...
post #17 of 21
Great! So now not only do I want a new pair of skis...I can see a set of twins being aquired too. I'm starting to see how this "ski quiver" thing starts.

"How come you're bringing 5 pairs of skis to the mountain in the back of your Jeep...but it's only two of you skiing?"

LOL!
post #18 of 21
It's frightening how fast it can happen...
post #19 of 21
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Well Folks !!! I bit the bullet and just bought the Line Blends !!!$ 294.00 shipped. I think I need another four pairs of skis Now just have to see if my bindings from my old 7M's are worthy to be put on them. I really appreciate everyone feedback here. I spend less time buying a car then buying skis.
post #20 of 21
I'm 5'9", 155 lbs and ski the Line Prophet 90's at 179 (or are they 178?). I wouldn't go shorter than this.
post #21 of 21
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Originally Posted by bmg97 View Post
Well Folks !!! I bit the bullet and just bought the Line Blends !!!$ 294.00 shipped. I think I need another four pairs of skis Now just have to see if my bindings from my old 7M's are worthy to be put on them. I really appreciate everyone feedback here. I spend less time buying a car then buying skis.
Where did you find the Blends for $294?
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