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Welch Village, MN Bans "aggressive" carving...

post #1 of 74
3/26/08 at 6:03am
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Apparently the ban applies to skiers and boarders that carve their turns too aggressively.

This link is to an alpine/race board forum, where the issue is being discussed.

http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulleti...ad.php?t=20605

How can a ski resort ban a technique??
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post #2 of 74
3/26/08 at 6:06am
this is the funniest thing I ever heard, if I was you I would put a board on and sidescrape all the ways down making as much noise as possiable.
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post #3 of 74
3/26/08 at 6:09am
That' the last nail in the coffin. What a bunch of SCHITE!!! I'm glad I didn't renew my pass there.

What's next? A ban on waxed skis?
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post #4 of 74
3/26/08 at 6:10am
So aggressive carving and rr-tracks destroy the slopes? lol how dumb are those guys? Never heard anything like that.. Don't worry too much about it, somebody will tell them they ****ed up..
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post #5 of 74
3/26/08 at 6:10am
lol censure?
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post #6 of 74
3/26/08 at 6:17am
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
this is the funniest thing I ever heard
What he said! :
How are they ever gonna enforce that?
I guess they'll have to terminate the local racing team now too...
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post #7 of 74
3/26/08 at 6:18am
just read the entire thread over there, now realize that you guys are mostly on carving boards, maybe strap some skis on and purposely make a bump line everyday by heel push short turns the same way down every run.
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post #8 of 74
3/26/08 at 6:39am
I wouldn't ski there. If people explain it with their pocketbooks I think they might wake up and smell the coffe.
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post #9 of 74
3/26/08 at 6:45am
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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post
I wouldn't ski there. If people explain it with their pocketbooks I think they might wake up and smell the coffe.
Precisely.

I was thinking about patrolling there - not any more. I wouldn't enforce that rule even if my job depended on it. They shifted a lot of unnecessary BS in the way of "enforcement" to the patrol there. They'll be hating life for sure.

Nanny-state BS - God I love Minnesota!! :

Maybe they should worry more about the people that do nothing but scrape snow from the top of the hill to the bottom of the hill... If they're worried about the carving board guys (of which there's MAYBE a half dozen), they should close the park too... Those guys run in one area fr the most part, and bother NO ONE!! Heck - I like the fact that the chew up the ICY SNOW that the groomers don't...

Idiots.
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post #10 of 74
3/26/08 at 6:46am
You'll have to pass your skis or board through a sidecut measuring meter?

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post #11 of 74
3/26/08 at 6:53am
Good thing I suck and won't have to worry.


Thats just stupid.
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post #12 of 74
3/26/08 at 6:54am
Or maybe they'll just dull your edges...
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post #13 of 74
3/26/08 at 7:17am
This is what happens when folks have to ski on the same 300 vert all season....
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post #14 of 74
3/26/08 at 8:25am
As mentioned by a friend of mine, even if you don't ski here in MN, a dangerous precedent is being set. Just give an inch...

You should all watch this one pretty carefully and see what is driving it. If one area bows to pressure like this, there's almost certain to be others. The industry can be funny that way, and lawyers even funnier. I have a feeling there's a lawsuit behind this somewhere.

FWIW, I did confirm the policy with the patrol director. It's real.
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post #15 of 74
3/26/08 at 8:40am
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Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
FWIW, I did confirm the policy with the patrol director. It's real.
Yeah, real stupid.
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post #16 of 74
3/26/08 at 8:41am
Too bad, I remember Welch as being a pretty decent local area when I lived im St Paul.
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post #17 of 74
3/26/08 at 8:51am
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Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
Yeah, real stupid.
Tell me about it. You can't believe some of the things the State of MN pulls off in the name of "taking care of you"...

I hate it here more and more each day, and it's really a shame as this is a beautiful place to live.
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post #18 of 74
3/26/08 at 8:56am
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Tell me about it. You can't believe some of the things the State of MN pulls off in the name of "taking care of you"...

I hate it here more and more each day, and it's really a shame as this is a beautiful place to live.
Well, in this case the state has nothing to do with it. Welch is privately owned.

I'm glad that many of you are concerned about this policy. I'm hoping that they see the light and rethink this. I'm also hoping that no other areas will follow suit.
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post #19 of 74
3/26/08 at 9:03am
Banning it bc it causes too much damage to the hill? Maybe they should try grooming the runs? I mean "Run". Chicken is the only "run" they have that is steep enough to "carve" isn't it?
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post #20 of 74
3/26/08 at 9:17am
Err, I've check their website.



I don't see how one could do anything agressive with skis on this mole hill. Knocking people with poles, maybe ?
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post #21 of 74
3/26/08 at 9:22am
Wow, talk about lame!

Hopefully, everyone votes with their wallets and goes elsewhere.
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post #22 of 74
3/26/08 at 9:27am
I just called and spoke to the communications department to find out more. Sure enough, they are banning carving for fear of lawsuits! I told the guy on the phone that was the stupidest thing that I have ever heard of and that it was ultimately a detriment to the whole ski industry (in a respectful way). I suggest that we all call and e-mail this place to let them know that this is just not cool! For the good of the sport!!! (651) 258-4567
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post #23 of 74
3/26/08 at 9:28am
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Originally Posted by MN-Carve View Post
Well, in this case the state has nothing to do with it. Welch is privately owned.
THIS TIME they might not, but you know what I'm saying. If you live in MN, you know it's as close to a Socialist state as you can get - unless that's your forte and you enjoy it. I don't.

I don't think this has a thing to do with "damage to the hill". It's an excuse with a lawsuit behind it.

Interesting times.
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post #24 of 74
3/26/08 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by philippeR View Post
Err, I've check their website.



I don't see how one could do anything agressive with skis on this mole hill. Knocking people with poles, maybe ?
You make due. It's better than nothing at all. This pic only shows about half of the area, and those lodges you see are pretty big. It's no Vail, but they've got snow, and it's close.
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post #25 of 74
3/26/08 at 9:41am
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So they are afraid of someone suing them over a rut in the snow left by a skier/boarder on edge, but they'll place intentional obstacles made out of steel out there for the jibbers to jump onto and slide across. Genius.
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post #26 of 74
3/26/08 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
This is what happens when folks have to ski on the same 300 vert all season....
What is that supposed to mean??

Just because some areas of the country are not blessed with tons of vert and "real" mountains, people should be forced to skid turn?? :
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post #27 of 74
3/26/08 at 9:47am
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Originally Posted by MN-Carve View Post
So they are afraid of someone suing them over a rut in the snow left by a skier/boarder on edge, but they'll place intentional obstacles made out of steel out there for the jibbers to jump onto and slide across. Genius.
<strike> Even better, they are DIGGING a 8-10-15' Trench in the snow called a 1/2 pipe.....</strike>

phone call = made.

Found out no 1/2 pipe anymore so strike above comment....
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post #28 of 74
3/26/08 at 11:04am
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Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
You make due. It's better than nothing at all. This pic only shows about half of the area, and those lodges you see are pretty big. It's no Vail, but they've got snow, and it's close.
Hey. If they say 'Epic Terrain' I believe them. Why would they exaggerate?
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post #29 of 74
3/26/08 at 11:14am
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Originally Posted by Phlogiston View Post
Hey. If they say 'Epic Terrain' I believe them. Why would they exaggerate?
They also claim 50 runs.

Look at the trail map and count for yourself.
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post #30 of 74
3/26/08 at 11:27am
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Originally Posted by Phlogiston View Post
Hey. If they say 'Epic Terrain' I believe them. Why would they exaggerate?
Epic - for cornfield country!

Again, MN is not a mountain state (hardly even a hill state) - we're considered part of the Great Plains. But at least it's something. Better than living in Oklahoma - I haven't heard much about the skiing there...
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