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Help me with a demo list - possible (short) trip next week

post #1 of 25
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There is a possibility I'll have a business trip to Denver next week. If so, I'll have time for a single day of skiing. I'm trying to put together a short list of skis that I might demo if the trip comes to fruition.

I'm 43 years old, 6'5", 250lbs. I'm an intermediate, comfortable on all blues and an occasional groomed black. I'm beginning to explore off-piste and easy bumps, and plan to expand that some in the future. Even so, I expect that most of my skiing will stay on groomers for a while. I am not a speed demon, but I do have a lot of weight to throw at a ski.

I've mostly been looking at skis around 75mm in width, +/- 3 mm. I need a reasonably forgiving ski as my technique could use some, ahem, improvement. Here are some that I've been considering, in no particular order after reading reviews here and on RealSkiers (to which I subscribed):
  • Dynastar Legend 8000 - not sure if this is too much ski?
  • Dynastar Legend 4800 - a little narrower, sounds a little more forgiving
  • Fischer Watea 78
  • Head iMoster 78 - also not sure if this is too much ski?
  • Head Xenon Xi 9.0 - sounds like this is less stiff, not sure if that is a good thing given my weight?
  • Volkl AC 20
  • Dynastar Contact Limited - more narrow than the others
If you had to choose one or two of these, what would they be? Or would something else be a better choice?

Thanks.
post #2 of 25
I'm 6'0", 197, 55 y.o., same level skier as you, with the same aspirations. After demoing a bunch of stuff, and reading the feedback here and elsewhere, I popped for the Monster 78 in 171 cm length.

I just came back from three days in Aspen, and thought the skis could handle anything my mediocre technique threw at them. Great edge grip on the hard pack, almost no tip deflection in 7 inches of cut-up pow, short turns as easy as can be expected with a 78mm waist, great stability at speed.

And they're ugly, too!!!!

You may need the 178 cm length, but I'll defer to the pros hereabouts on that one.
post #3 of 25

This time of year

Demos will be difficult to find on the mountain.

Good luck!

Cal
post #4 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the info, robertito - it is good to find someone of similar ability has skied and liked the Monster 78. Hopefully, I'll be able to try them.

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Originally Posted by Cgrandy View Post
Demos will be difficult to find on the mountain.
I've never skied as late as early April before, so that may turn out to be the case. If so then I'll just rent the best thing I can find. But with all the great end-of-season sales going on, I'm still hoping to try out some and find one that makes me grin.
post #5 of 25
At your height and weight, don't be afraid to go with the longest length in each ski even if you are an intermediate. At a minimum, the next size down.

On your list, I think the Legend 8K and the iM78 are two great choices, and they are standouts in their width range. I have been extremely impressed by both skis in demos and can see why they are so well liked.

I have not skied the Watea 78, but own the 84 and 94. They are very nice soft snow skis, with a light feel and a lot of energy, but not nearly as versatile at the 8K or iM78 in a general sense. I would only consider the Wateas if soft snow was the condition of the day (powder, crud, soft packed, spring snow).

So yeah, if you can get 8K or iM78 demos, definitely give them a shot. If I could only own one ski, I am pretty sure it would be one of these two.

Good luck!
post #6 of 25
You have a good list. Any will work.

At least as far as Vail is concerned, you will NO problem finding demos. Stop into any Christy Sports for a wide selection.
post #7 of 25
Where might you be skiing brabson? Have you seen this thread? Check out post #24. It'd be cool to ski a run or two with you
post #8 of 25
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Originally Posted by bumpfreaq View Post
Where might you be skiing brabson? Have you seen this thread? Check out post #24. It'd be cool to ski a run or two with you
No, I hadn't seen that thread. I'm not tied to anywhere in particular - if I get the trip, then I would have pretty much free reign to ski on Saturday (April 5th) at any resort that is in driving distance to Denver. Beaver Creek is a longer haul than I had originally planned, but the chance to ski with a bunch of folks vs. myself would make it worth the extra time. I'm definitely in if I get the chance!
post #9 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the input on the skis, skier219 - especially on the im78 and 8Ks, as well as on the softness of the Wateas. It sounds like the im78 and 8Ks would be a better fit for what I'm looking for. I figured I'd be going as long as possible given my size, although that sometimes isn't possible depending on demo availability.

Also thanks to Squeaky Wheel - its good to know there are still demos available this time of year.
post #10 of 25
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Originally Posted by brabson View Post
No, I hadn't seen that thread. I'm not tied to anywhere in particular - if I get the trip, then I would have pretty much free reign to ski on Saturday (April 5th) at any resort that is in driving distance to Denver. Beaver Creek is a longer haul than I had originally planned, but the chance to ski with a bunch of folks vs. myself would make it worth the extra time. I'm definitely in if I get the chance!
Unfortunately I won't be making it to BC, but if you're able I'd highly recommend it. I haven't yet been to any LGC days but I've made it to a couple of Bear gatherings and they've been great fun
post #11 of 25
If you are considering Head Xenon 9 then keep an eye out for Head Xenon 10.0 - It is the replacement for the 9 and a much improved version

Mike
post #12 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Mike. I went and found your review of the Xenon 10.0 - sounds like Head made some good improvements.
post #13 of 25
Hi, I am about your size and a little lower in level and looking for a new ski. Two models I'm looking at might fit nicely in your list are the Nordica HotRod Nitrous and the Fischer AMC76. The last one should be quite forgiving. By coincidence one of the few skies I have tried is the Dynastar Contact Limited. I found that to be a very easy ski to ski compared to others I have tried, so I believe you should like it at your level. I don't know however if it is a ski to grow a lot with, but it should be fun. I am also very curious about the Xenon, by the way, especially how it does for bigger people.

Have fun testing,
Remco
- who is actually just manipulating you into making notes I can use
post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the suggestions, Remco. I've thought about the Nitrous, and they might be a good choice. I hadn't looked at the AMC78s, but they do look promising. W.r.t. the Contact Limiteds, I don't think I would outgrow them, at least not from the reviews I've seen. I might prefer something slightly wider at the waist, though.
post #15 of 25
I'd go with the L8K. I have the L4800 and the Mythic Rider and have skied the 8K also. I didn't really find it any more demanding than the 4800, but is sure has more upper end capability.
post #16 of 25
k2 stryker or recon might be a good one to try, the stryker being more forgiving.
post #17 of 25
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On your list, I think the Legend 8K and the iM78 are two great choices, and they are standouts in their width range. I have been extremely impressed by both skis in demos and can see why they are so well liked.
Going to agree with skier 219....these are the best and most versatile skis in the group. I think you'll find the 8k a bit more forgiving and the im78 a bit more damp and demanding. Either would be a home run for you. I do recommend stopping a specialty shop and not waiting till you get to the mountain...chances will be much better that you'll find something.

Have fun!
post #18 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by skiolin View Post
k2 stryker or recon might be a good one to try, the stryker being more forgiving.
Those do look like good skis to try - I'll add them on to my (ever growing) list.
post #19 of 25
Thread Starter 
A big thanks to all who took time to read and reply. I've settled on the 8K and im78 as my short-short list of skis. I've got a whole bunch of others in case I can't get those, or in case I dislike both for some odd reason.
post #20 of 25
Of the bunch you settled on the best. Have fun.
post #21 of 25
I am trying out the 8000's tomorrow. I tried the Stockli Lasercross CR 24 the other day, and I will say they are a fun, forgiving ski..Give it a try...I think they are 72mm....The IM78 was also fun, but not quite as forgiving..In crud, it is hard to beat..
post #22 of 25
I wouldn't try to demo too many skis on one day. I like the Contact Limited and the Nordica Nitrous/Top Fuel for you. It will depend on whats available. I would try to do 2 or at most 3 demos in one day. Have Fun!
post #23 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post
I wouldn't try to demo too many skis on one day. I like the Contact Limited and the Nordica Nitrous/Top Fuel for you. It will depend on whats available. I would try to do 2 or at most 3 demos in one day. Have Fun!
That is my goal - just a couple of skis. I'm just trying to whittle down the list, and then prioritize what is left in case my top pick(s) aren't available.
post #24 of 25
I skied the Contact limited in Utah last month. I'm 5'11" 193 lbs. level 8-9. I would consider myself an all mountain skier. The Contact Limited was an awesome ski on the groomed trails. I started out on the 178 but the guy at the store suggested I try the 172. So after a couple days I switched to the 172. I liked the 178's much better. They were fast and held their edges really good. They were the best I had ever skied on as far as for groomed trails. They were so so easy to turn, short or long. The 172's were a little different story. They were not as stable at high speed. They wanted to get loose. I had to pay attention to them pretty much all the time. They were a good ski not for me at that length. I loved the 178's. I don't think you would be disapointed with the Contact Limited. Have fun.
post #25 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the info, ezliven. The Contact Limiteds are definitely on my list of skis that I want to try. Everything I've read about them makes them sound like an awesome ski.
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