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Palmer P01 Freestyle 179cm 2008-2009 Review

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Quoted from our preliminary review over at ExoticSkis..thought you might like to see the new graphics!

(Review by S1AM from Utah [ExoticSkis.com] )

2008-2009 Palmer P01 Freestyle 179


I had the opportunity to ski these this past weekend (Feb 23, 2008) at Alta. We had a foot of fresh and I skied them both in the powder (where they pleasantly surprised me) and on the groomed (where they seemed to be truly at home). The ski says "P01 Freestyle". I am not sure what about this is meant to be a freestyle ski, aside from the graphics, but it does rip on the groomed and skis surprisingly well in the powder.

The fit and finish seemed excellent. This ski was pressed clean and tight with great color bleed on the graphics and a very durable topsheet. The graphics are a matter of taste and instead of offering you my opinion, I'll simply post some shots and let you decide if you like what you see. Click on any of the small pictures below for a higher resolution version of the same image.

First, topsheet and base shots:

Detailed views of the topsheet:

This is what Palmer are calling a tip (and tail). I, for one, don't miss the oversize "twin" tip on the tail and I think the people following me appreciated the low profile tails as well. The tip works surprisingly well and I didn't miss the extra material one bit:

The 179 may be just a bit short for me (~200lbs) but if it has a speed limit I didn't find it. This is a very competent, wide-waisted GS ski with new school graphics. Previous reviewers mention the tip; I was worried it would submarine, even on the groomed! Instead it just skimmed along viciously egging me on to turn up the speed dial. The P01 is very damp (especially for a ski with metal), holding a solid edge at suprisingly high speeds. I found myself dragging my hips on the steep groomers and leaving trenches everywhere I went.

It probably wasn't fair to take this easy-turning speed machine into the powder but I just couldn't resist, and the P01 didn't dissapoint. Boot deep snow; no pronblem. Kneee deep drifts; no problem. Just adjust your race stance back a bit when you pop off the groomers and hang on tight, this ski wants to make GS turns even in the deep stuff! I kept worrying that the tip would dive but it just kept slicing through the snow, just below the surface.
In summary this is a high performing, damp, all mountain ski with great edge grip which can be turned quickly. It is also versatile enough to take into the powder if needed and will still handle very easily. The version I skied appeared to be manufactured to a very high standard of quality. The bold design speaks for itself.
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Apparently, today is "Palmer Review Day" on Epic ...
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I had a chance to demo this ski a month or so ago and agree that is was a lot of fun. It was in the east with hardpak and spring like conditions. I was very happy with the edge hold for an 89mm waist ski and went through afternoon slush with ease.

This demo was put on by Head and the rep told me that these skis are built in the Head plant in Austria. The quality was pure Head. I believe that you will start to see these ski offered more. The rep told me that Head will now be distributing the Palmer line.

If you get a chance I would give them a try. They were a great fun ski.
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Palmer "P01" Freestyle
125-89-117 19.4m radius@179cm

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Manufacturer Info:

Palmer Snowboards Ltd.
1037B Broadway
Denver, CO. 80202
(303) 623-0334


Manufactured in Austria

Suggested Retail Price (MSRP):
$ ?
€ ?

Usage Class:

All mountain freeride/freestyle

Your Rating (with comments):
(1="get me off these things"->10="I have to own a pair")

9-10 for any soft surfaces and terrain


"Buttah" for mid to large radius turns in any surface deeper than a centimeter. Easy turning, surprisingly quick maneuvering 89mm-waisted ski. Remarkably solid in ripping GS turns when laid on its edge. It loves speed and has no real upper speed limit...it just stays quiet and precise. I fell in love with this ski and it would be one of my top choices for the fatter part of a 2-ski quiver. Very precise and lightweight, easy to direct and yet has a fantastic grip at speed under pressure. Never nervous, never insecure...just a quiet, elegant ride. You could ski this in the powder, trees and junk and yet feel totally comfortable on the groomers to get back to the lifts. Bears no performance resemblance whatsoever to the previous season's "P01". Not for people who want a stiff uber-hucking landing platform. This ski seems flawless for its purposes. Can I keep it?

Ski Designer :

Palmer Hansjürg Kessler (multi-time snowboard worldcup winner and design guru).

Technical Ski Data :

NCF Prepeg beech/poplar wood core sandwich construction. (more details to come)

This ski is nearly identical in dimensions to the Head Mad-Trix Mojo and 4frnt Madonna.

Pre-Skiing Impression:

Very lightweight, very thin vertical profile, very soft and buttery feeling, but torsionally robust away from the tip and tail toward the center body of the ski. Excellent fit and finish with great factory tune right out of the wrapper. Richly vibrant graphics. Very "cool" looking ski. Fairly damp feel...no severe snap to its rebound.

Test Conditions:

First test day: Fresh 1-2 inch snow on top of very dense, very packed damp corn snow (barely leaves a footprint when stepped-on) with some hardpack in spots.
More test days to come later...

Test Results:

The first few turns felt like a fruit smoothie, even though the surface was pretty dense. The P01 hung into the smallest amount of fresh snow with a quiet authority and begged to go faster. The more speed it got, the more responsive it became, but retained a "quiet" character on the snow. It could cut across surface changes without so much as a wiggle...just tracking along begging to be pressed. I was able to whip off some short radius turns no problem (as much as an 89mm waist ski can) without any hint of slop or washout. "Elegant" is a word that crept into mind...more so than some other skis we've tried. It loved hunting down cruddy snow and went right into a comfortable cruise-mode no problem. It loved being laid over into big GS turns on the groomed surfaces and held a remarkably smooth, strong arc with little effort. It seemed to be easy going and simple to drift and smear in the fist 0-20% of its flex...then when pushed into 20%+, became a solid gripper and wanted to be held there for a ride, rewarding the rider with fun trenches dug into the surface. Edge transition was remarkably easy and fast for a ski without a radical sidecut of this size. Addicting feel. This ski left an impression on me. "Buttah" was another word that kept coming up in my mind. Less rowdy and demanding than some skis in this size category, but more refined and precise. Not a hard snow hyper-carver, and not a dedicated powder pig ski, but pretty much fits the bill for everything in-between. Great turn variety and handling. Palmer has a winner here for going just about anywhere on the mountain and getting a good ride. Eastern skiers will think it's a soft snow/powder ski, Western skiers will think its an all-mountain ski.

Analogies: (this ski is like...)

Fruit smoothie pouring down the hill with some hard ice cream underneath when you want it.

After Skiing These, I Want To...

Sell something I already own and buy a pair, then move to big mountain country.

Self-Description of Skiing Style, Ability, Experience, Preferences :

5' 11", 190 lbs. Expert groomed-surface carver, "old-style" race inspired, "foot steerer" with fairly sensitive edging feel. Loves to hold long arcs with lots of pressure on the downhill ski (you know the type), but also loves the feel of both skis on-edge leaving tiny railroad track edge tracks. Not an instructor, but 10 year coach for youth race team in New England (bulletproof is the norm).
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Second testing day results:

Spring conditions...firm and nearly frozen granular in the very early AM, then turned to dense packed "damp sand" and sinkable corn later on with scraped sections showing some softened ice underneath.
The P01 quickly became my ski of choice after the early AM hour or two. The softening "damp sand" snow and pre-corn snow was really fun on these skis. The more I skied on these, the more I realized they are much more elegant turning than other skis with nearly the same dimensions we have tried this year. Really freindly and easy, but yet would hold a high-speed line through the choppy stuff just fine and without a flutter. This could be my new standard for Eastern spring skiing. Compliant in the soft corn bumps and easy to manuver, stable and quick at speed. While some stiffer skis might cut crud with more authority than the P01, the Palmers seem to do it with less fuss and fewer calories of input energy. Really freindly. The more I ski it, the more I like it as a fat twin choice. The shallow shovel might give the impression it will stab into the bumps, it really doesn't, it just easily lifts up and away when needed. Slightly floppity at mach schnell through ragged cut-up spring tracks and cross-ruts, but always holds its line. Some more aggressive skiers might not like that feeling, others might find it just great. Nice ski.
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How would you/anyone compare these to Scott Missions? I hope this a a fair question. Thanks in advance.
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I just had a look in the dimensions:
Also quite close to the Punisher
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