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Need new all mountain ski Watea? Mythic Rider? or Xwing fury?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Any help here guys? I saw there are some great deals on the Sierra Jim page.

I was going to wait and get the AC 50 but $1200 for the AC 50? The above skis have really come down in price.

Thanks
post #2 of 13
would help if you tell us something about yourself & where you ski
post #3 of 13
What he said
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
I am 6' 195-200lbs

I like skiing quick and fast if that makes any sense. I like the entire mountain. Bumps, trees, blue speed burners, etc... I was skiing a Volkl AC4 170 for the last 5 years and would like something with a little more edge hold. I have Volkl Gots for Pow days and have been skiing them as a 1 ski quiver but for spring skiing I do not think that is what I want.

I only ski OR, and MT

Thanks
post #5 of 13
I've had the AC4 in 177 and went to a Dynastar 8K in 178 (5'10", 175lbs). However, my reasoning was the opposite of yours. I thought the AC4 was too hooky in the bumps and the trees and wanted a ski I could slip easier and a softer tail that wouldn't punish me in the bumps and trees. I really like the 8K in the bumps/trees, as I find it very nimble and lively. It does get thrown around in the crud a bit, but on those days you'll probably be on your Gotamas.

I also demoed the mythic rider and really liked it, but not as quick as the 8K. Plus I use my Mantras on deeper days and thought that the mythic rider would basically be the same- although stiffer.
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by USCdownhill View Post
I am 6' 195-200lbs

I was skiing a Volkl AC4 170 for the last 5 years and would like something with a little more edge hold.

You should go longer for that type of ski given your height and weight, more like 176-178cm range. That would likely address the edge hold problem.
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
Yes

I was going to go with the AC50 in the 177

The question is what ski to go with with the good deals that are out there?

I like the D800 as a possible option.
post #8 of 13
AC4's are known for their edge hold; I'd guess that you're skiing them too short for your weight. I kinda liked the 177's and I'm 164 lbs. Also note that skiing trees and bumps generally calls for different ski strengths than SG turns on hardpack blue runs. (Which are questionable anyway, considering the intermediate skiers around you.)

Given your Goats, and your need for speed/grip, I'd recommend three skis: The AC40 (or next year's 50) in a 177, since this is probably the most do everything fairly well midfat made; the Stockli XXL, which will satisfy any rational speed freak and just demolish chop, but just OK in bumps; the Blizzard 84IQ whatever, which will feel like a smoother more secure version of your AC's; and the Head iM82, which will be the easiest of the bunch at low speeds in bumps and tight spaces, will prefer speed on the groomers, but will get stiffer and stiffer as you accelerate, which takes some getting used to if it's icy. Each will handle your weight at speed and all are known for their grip.
post #9 of 13
Don't forget about the Hot Rods.

A much more negotiable system binding than the Volkl and way more edge grip than I have been able to conquer.

the Jet Fuel compliments my goat. However, I would go longer. 178 or 186. I'm on a 186 and only 5'9" 175. It's too much ski when the light is flat, but if I can see I'm letting them run and they crank quick turns at exceptionally high speeds.

However, if I were to build a new 2 ski quiver, it would be a Head WC GS and a Katana-esque.
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by seattle_sun View Post
I also demoed the mythic rider and really liked it, but not as quick as the 8K. Plus I use my Mantras on deeper days and thought that the mythic rider would basically be the same- although stiffer.
I own both Mantra & Mythic Rider and they are actually very different

MR: more powerful, stiffer, damper, far better in crud

Mantra: better float in deep soft snow, softer flex, less rebound energy & far less damp
post #11 of 13
I agree. I was trying to say, that for me, I would find too much overlap between the two skis and I would end up skiing one of them the majority of the time and find the other one on the ski rack gathering dust.
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Originally Posted by seattle_sun View Post
I agree. I was trying to say, that for me, I would find too much overlap between the two skis and I would end up skiing one of them the majority of the time and find the other one on the ski rack gathering dust.
Good point.

I've only skied my Mantra once since getting the MR.
post #13 of 13
A fellow I teach with has his new X-Wing Furies for sale cheap. He offered them to another instructor, and the reply was, "I've skied them. They didn't do it for me, either."

Consider the Head Monster 78 or Monster 82.
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