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post #61 of 72
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post

Volkl skis have NEVER been durable. They were easy to bend when they were P9, P10 or P30's... they skied really well if you could ski, they punished you if you couldn't.
That's funny! I was thinking the same thing wondering about how many warranty claims were attempted on P9's when they were bent in the bumps!
post #62 of 72
Anyone want some 193 cm P40s cheap? Never drilled, $35.00.

http://cgi.ebay.com/VOLKL-P40-SKIS-1...QQcmdZViewItem


post #63 of 72
^^^
Now if that were the F1 Energy Rail instead of the platinum, I might be interested.
post #64 of 72
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^^^
Now if that were the F1 Energy Rail instead of the platinum, I might be interested.
nope, but got these

http://cgi.ebay.com/VOLKL-P40-SKIS-1...photohost ing

post #65 of 72
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I LOVED those!!!!!
post #66 of 72
Nope, not red, not platinum-blue-white, Green.

These are tempting http://cgi.ebay.ca/VOLKL-P50-F1-SKIS...QQcmdZViewItem , but I would have to find a binding. Does it take a hostage binding? Can I still get that model binding? hmm...
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post #68 of 72
Ghost, any of the newer Marker bindings will work on that plate, non lifted would be best. You need the Marker with the center screw hole that is back as opposed to older Marker with a post mount forward... one hole pattern is a triangle facing forward (old) one is a triangle facing back (newer).
post #69 of 72

Real Voelkl

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
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Current Volkl skis are incredibly popular with the masses... wanna know why? They are watered down, weak versions of what they once were. They are dumbed-down so anyone can ski them, dumbed down so anyone can ski them and feel proud that they 'ski Volkls'. They are fine skis, they just aren't what they once were, a bad ass 'skier's ski', now they are just 'skis' and that's OK, ski 'em if you like 'em.
So I say: If you want a Voelkl, buy a Stockli
post #70 of 72
Can't speak to durability issues on the newer Volkls (at the moment only own 07-08 Goats), but my various 5* and 6* rammed through almost anything. As did my old Snow Rangers and P40's.

OTOH, I didn't make a habit of zippering bumps, banking off trees, or edging on bare rock. Wonder how much of the perceived change is really more aggressive/adventuresome skiing by good skiers. Think back to the Rangers: They were novel because they encouraged you to go after ungroomed or even (gasp) sidebounds part of the day! : We forget how recently we decided skiing should include railing, rocks, and ridiculous air.

Davluri, if you want a Volkl, buy a Blizzard. Same glassy powerful feel the old Volkls had, and they don't tolerate bad technique like the new Volkls do. (Whiteroom's right on that score.) Stocklis - which I love - were always different feeling than Volkls, still are.
post #71 of 72
This discussion remindes of the "Boston Consulting Matrix" we studied in the MBA, which plotted brands on a grid consisting of:

Stars (rising growth rate and market share)
Dogs (declining)
Cash Cows (low growth, high market share) and
Question Marks (high growth low market share)

In my estimation, Volkl is a Cash Cow - not growing rapidly, but huge market share. As such, Volkl is being milked. I don't like it, but it's the correct strategy.

I'm more interested in Question Marks, like Stockli and Blizzard. Both are limited in distrubution, but growing in brand equity and market share.

Such brands are inherently exciting. You feel as though you're part of the discovery, and path to success.

With Volkl, you have a storied brand that's now run by a conglomerate. The skis are still excellent, but as BB King once said: "The thrill is gone".
post #72 of 72
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Originally Posted by Captain_Strato View Post
Such brands are inherently exciting. You feel as though you're part of the discovery, and path to success.

With Volkl, you have a storied brand that's now run by a conglomerate. The skis are still excellent, but as BB King once said: "The thrill is gone".
An interesting take. Is this why all the boutique skis are declared "Bomber" even when those same boutique companies sell their blems at discounted prices?

I remember the guys at TGR going on and on about how bomber the bros are while the owner was offering pre-sale advice on how to fix the delams. Apparently, all those guys got their delammed gear warrantied... I just wonder where the "Bomber" thing came in.

Besides, who has time to wait for a warranty to go through from a company that requires a waiting period for your first purchase?

I'm all for boutique companies. I'm quite sure my next ski will be a boutique. But... that has nothing to do with quality or warranty... at all. I just like the idea of Made in America... by hand.
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