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post #31 of 56

The Raxskis offend my elitist skiing sensibilities. 

 

How silly, they should become almost as popular as the monoboard.

post #32 of 56

That video looks like people are skiing out of control on those steep slopes. I hope I never run into one of those people on the Raxskis on my hill, they might run into me since they're out of control! My "long" skis are perfectly fine in length and turn just fine, I don't see why anyone would want to use what is essentially ski blades with brakes on the back.

post #33 of 56

Playing Devil's advocate, it probably looks worse than it is; they have to lean back and dig there heels in to make the brakes work.

 

I still agree with your assessment.  People need to learn how to tip their skis, not buy a snow skate with tail brakes.

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Originally Posted by MustangSVT View Post

That video looks like people are skiing out of control on those steep slopes. I hope I never run into one of those people on the Raxskis on my hill, they might run into me since they're out of control! My "long" skis are perfectly fine in length and turn just fine, I don't see why anyone would want to use what is essentially ski blades with brakes on the back.

 

post #34 of 56

Here's a bit more specific assesment from the videos I've seen and why I think rax-skis wouldn't belong in my ski quiver.

 

I do four types of skiing, groomed runs, ungroomed, ungroomed w/ moguls, ungroomed w/ cutup powder (or untracked powder if lucky). That 4th one (the powder) is usually trees and is usually steep.

 

1. Groomed runs.  I like speed, stability at speed, I like doing edge to edge carving, I like good edge grip. As far as I can tell from the videos, the Raxskis do not do this better than a good carving ski (i.e. most under-80mm "normal" skis by Volkl, Dynastar, Nordica, Fischer, etc).

 

2. Ungroomed runs. I like stability, I like to be able to go off mini-jumps (on the steep runs) and land them safely. From the videos, I don't think you could take air in the Raxski and land with stability.

 

3. Moguls. Haven't seen a video of raxski in this, so I won't comment. I like edge grip going over and between moguls especially if they're icy in certain parts.

 

4. Steep, powder, trees.  I like to stay on top of the snow, I like control in the trees and I like the feeling of initiating turns through the tree runs.  From the videos of the raxski, it doesn't truly provide control in powder, the people in those videos weren't really "skiing", but rather just going down at speed and without too much control.  I think you'd be in trouble on a steep tree run with the raxskis.

 

Those 4 reasons are why I don't see myself getting the raxski (or any ski blade) any time soon.  The thing that I don't quite understand is that the videos say "the raxski is as easy to turn as an ice skate" and also talks about how they stay above the snow because of the back brakes. It's basically implying that "convential" skis are hard to turn.  I definitely don't think convential skis are hard to turn. If you know how to ski, you can defintely turn.  How else are people skiing steep glades? Obviously, you need some sort of good technique to handle a steep glade with a rhythm.  As for staying above in powder, that's what fat skis are for.  I doubt the rax ski will be better than say a Praxis Pow in the powder.

post #35 of 56

 

 

 

Not yet,

with Rax skis in the hand or under foot

you are still considered as an elitistic object.

They are different and so are you.

Even your tracks are unbelievable:

no skidding, no jump turns (see pix)

 

 

 

post #36 of 56

 

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Originally Posted by MustangSVT View Post
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 I like to be able to go off mini-jumps (on the steep runs) and land them safely. From the videos, I don't think you could take air in the Raxski and land with stability.

...

  I think you'd be in trouble on a steep tree run with the raxskis.

 

For jumps just watch the vid to the end, MustangSVT

 

...

 

Would you seriously mean Rax skis had any weakness in steep trees ?

They have been originally created for these conditions at the Raxalpe.

And for nothing else

 

post #37 of 56

 

Ah the tilt pics from TGR finally made their way here.....

post #38 of 56

Doesn't anybody here remember Scorpion skis?

post #39 of 56

Without meaning to pick on Tom via multiple boards, I have to wonder - if these are the perfect ski for glades, what happens when you skim over some partially buried deadfall? I'm sure we've all had those moments where you feel the slighly unexpected friction of sliding over a partially buried tree - what happens when you add fins into that? Then add non-releasable bindings?

post #40 of 56

 

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Originally Posted by toiletduck View Post

...- if these are the perfect ski for glades, what happens when you skim over some partially buried deadfall? ... over a partially buried tree ... Then add non-releasable bindings?

 

 

There is an US report on riding glades in VT

 

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155559

 

For skimming over stones, roots, steps. etc

there is rule saying that:

if both ski tips come over the hindrance

then the fins will also do.

The explanation being that the front lower edges of fins

are stream lined.

Hitting a 10cm high step produces some torque

but it does not stop the movement.

Fins are neither hooks nor crampons !

Have a look at them

 

 

 

Consequently if there is no danger of "hanging" on submerged rocks

you can legally use a non-releasing binding for a 99cm total ski length.

The only advantage of standard binding is the comfort of "step-in".

 

 

post #41 of 56

I can't quite see the fins from this angle.

 

Perhaps if she turned around? 

post #42 of 56

 

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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post

I can't quite see the fins from this angle.

 

Perhaps if she turned around? 


"Turn around, Eva!

Cirquerider would like to see your ....fins !"

 

She says she is not a mermaid.

 

But if you come and ski with her ?

post #43 of 56

You are the most committed troll ever.

 

Bravo.  

post #44 of 56

 

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Originally Posted by samurai View Post

You are the most committed troll ever.

 

Bravo.  


Trying hard to reach this grade, samurai

 

But now back to the skiing reality.

Let me show you the "turn on Rax fins° in steeps

as an opposite to "jump turn"

The rear fins do not lose the contact to the snow ground.

 

 

 

 

post #45 of 56

I would rather ski the steeps than scrape down them while digging in my fin-attached heels.

post #46 of 56

 

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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post

I can't quite see the fins from this angle.

 

Perhaps if she turned around? 

 

And took her clothes off.

post #47 of 56

 

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Originally Posted by karpiel View Post

 

 

And took her clothes off.


Somehow you are right, karpiel.

Skiing is nothing more than the second best activity

you can imagine !

I might wish the same as you.

 

Back to the reality:

Let me show you another "Raxing" today.

Elegant, smooth

 

post #48 of 56

Looks like something Tai Chi Skier might be able to use.

post #49 of 56

 

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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

Looks like something Tai Chi Skier might be able to use.


You got it, Ghost !

Beijing skiers will hopefully love it

when we visit China in December !

Was told that ski population in China is doubling every year (?)

 

I personally prefer less groomers

 

 

 

 

post #50 of 56

 

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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

I would rather ski the steeps than scrape down them while digging in my fin-attached heels.


Does the diging look like this ?

post #51 of 56
I saw these being sold at The Home Depot in the lawn and garden section. The sales guy said the fins work great for tilling soil.
And they come with a free can of deodorant.
Nice product.
post #52 of 56
These RaxSkis are quite a brilliant idea.  Just think what would happen if we have like 300 to 500 people on these with the fins digging deep -- they would destroy all the groomers on a given resourt in a matter of minutes (remember how the milk dissapears on the powder day?).  Then the general public leaves the slopes by 11 AM and we have all the mountain to ourselves.  :)
post #53 of 56
They just don't look graceful. They might make getting down the hill easier (not that it was hard?) but it's not pleasant to watch.

I'd give some a go out of curiosity but I can't see people giving up their skis/boards for them.
post #54 of 56
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Originally Posted by rmerry View Post

I'd give some a go out of curiosity but I can't see people giving up their skis/boards for them.
 


Or their ski-boards for them. ;)
post #55 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmerry View Post

They just don't look graceful. They might make getting down the hill easier (not that it was hard?) but it's not pleasant to watch.

I'd give some a go out of curiosity but I can't see people giving up their skis/boards for them.

No reason to give up your shaped skis !
Use them on groomers in the morning and then switch to RaSkis at noon to enjoy soft moguls.
Never give up your board as there is no replacement for this "sideways driving". Have you fun .

But why should not you try a new feeling on



There is an opportunity to meet RaxSki
at Metro Ski&Snowboard Show in London, Olympia Grand Hall, Kensington Oct 21 to 25.
We got stand No 262 on the ground floor next to Trespass, near the Main Slope
post #56 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmerry View Post

They just don't look graceful. They might make getting down the hill easier (not that it was hard?) but it's not pleasant to watch.

I'd give some a go out of curiosity but I can't see people giving up their skis/boards for them.

Well, there is no reason to give up your shaped skis

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