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I'm 30, 171cm tall (5"7), 170lbs.

A low-intermediate skier (comfortable on groomed blues and very very easy blacks). Skiing mostly in PA (some northeast) on manmade snow that is often icy or cruddy; rarely ever any actual powder.
I don't like going too fast, and I like to be able to initiate shorter turns well. Not planning on going off-trail. My main problems when skiing are handling icy conditions (so I need something with a good edge grip), and handling bumpy or rutted snow.

At the beginning of the season I purchased my first pair, an Elan Flow 6.2, the low-end series that Elan has (4.2, 6.2, 8.2). I feel that they're handling good groomed snow well, but cannot handle worse conditions.

I'd like to stay with Elan, and I'm contemplating between a Mag and a Speedwave (which my local store doesn't sell), but not sure which model to try in each. Since the Mag 6 is gone, I thought about a Mag 8, though one salesman recommended the Mag 10 (another said I should stick with the flows). I think the 10 may be too much ski for me. As for the speedwaves, they seem preferable for the conditions I ski on and they're supposed to be thinner which would seem to make them carve better, but I'm not sure. I may be able to demo them in VT next week.

Any tips?
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I'm 30, 171cm tall (5"7), 170lbs.

A low-intermediate skier (comfortable on groomed blues and very very easy blacks). Skiing mostly in PA (some northeast) on manmade snow that is often icy or cruddy; rarely ever any actual powder.
I don't like going too fast, and I like to be able to initiate shorter turns well. Not planning on going off-trail. My main problems when skiing are handling icy conditions (so I need something with a good edge grip), and handling bumpy or rutted snow.

At the beginning of the season I purchased my first pair, an Elan Flow 6.2, the low-end series that Elan has (4.2, 6.2, 8.2). I feel that they're handling good groomed snow well, but cannot handle worse conditions.

I'd like to stay with Elan, and I'm contemplating between a Mag and a Speedwave (which my local store doesn't sell), but not sure which model to try in each. Since the Mag 6 is gone, I thought about a Mag 8, though one salesman recommended the Mag 10 (another said I should stick with the flows). I think the 10 may be too much ski for me. As for the speedwaves, they seem preferable for the conditions I ski on and they're supposed to be thinner which would seem to make them carve better, but I'm not sure. I may be able to demo them in VT next week.

Any tips?
The Magfire series holds well on hard snow, but the Speedwave is narrower and therefore is somewhat superior. The Mag 10 is probably a little stiff for you, the Mag 8 would probably be what you should be on. It is the lowest-end Elan we sell, as the Flow series isn't suitable for decent skiers, as it sounds like you are finding out. The Mag 8 is a very versatile ski, and the equivalent, the Speedwave 10, is as well, although as you mentioned, the SW is a bit more hard-snow biased, but can do well in crud and new snow, provided it isn't too deep.

Since you are primarily looking to hard-snow performance, my recommendation would be to look at the Speewave 10. The Speedwave 12 is higher performance than the Magfire 10, and therefore probably out of the question for you. The Speedwave 10 is more along the lines of what you are looking for: something that won't beat you up, but will guide you along as you improve, and take you on or off piste if you wish.
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I skied both the Mag 10 and Speedwave 12 on MN hardpack ("corn") the last two days.

I'm 6', 185#, and am skiing them both in 176cm. I own both of these skis, along with the Mag 14. (Thanks Dawg!!)

I find both skis to be somewhat similar, as the radius on them is nearly identical, the main differences being dimensions and energy - the SW12 gives you more pop. That said, I actually prefer the Mag 10, mainly because of it's ability to soak up rough terrain (the hill I was on is used HEAVILY by racers, so the ruts are permanent and icy), where the SW12 wanted to be deflected by that type of thing just a bit more. The other thing I found is that because there is a little more ski underfoot with the Mag 10 (75mm vs. 69mm), when the base was giving way, I was less apt to wash out with the wider waist. The Mag 10 is just a bit more tame - you may or may not enjoy that. I'm coming from using Rossi a LONG time, so I like a somewhat damp ski, but still have fun with skis that give back too. I'm glad I have both.
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