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1-ski quiver to 2-ski quiver?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
I feel that I might be ready for one more pair of skis (if I find it cheap in the end of the season).
Currently I proudly own Head XRC 1100, 3 years old, in 170 cm. I find them very good for most of my needs, but if another pair of skis can be bought, what should it be? I like the feel of Heads, tested Supershapes in 165 cm, loved them. Tested Supershape Speed in 170, it was a little too much for me in powder and on ungroomed terrain. Might stay with Head line, but not necessarily.

About myself: 5'8'', 185 lbs. Skiing in the Midwest with 1 or 2 trips West per season. Planning to do 30-40 days a year, 40% groomers, 40% NASTAR racing, 20% - off-piste (mostly in aspirations). Should I get a pair of more specialized racing skis and stay with 1100 for other needs? all-mountain skis, leaving 1100 for amateur racing? what models and in what length can be recommended? If you were me, what would you do?
post #2 of 13
If you are skiing out-west, I would add a wide all-mountain ski. A Fischer Watea 94 in a 186cm will do the trick. If you consider that to be too big, consider a Head Monster 82 in a 183cm.

You can continue to use the 1100 and upgrade from this ski in the future.

Cheers,

Michael
post #3 of 13
I love my Head im78 for a one ski quiver especially since you don't take too many trips out west. It does everything incredible well.

Since I live out in CO, I want to pick up a pow ski like a Gotama or the new Head 102, but it really isn't all that necessary since I've ski'd knee depth pow without a problem in the 78's.
post #4 of 13
I also ski the midwest with a couple of western trips per season. I don't race, but I like carving fast on firm snow . I can't tell you what I would do if I were you, but I can tell you what I'm would do if I were me (which, of course, I am):

A two ski quiver: east-coast ice-skates plus big fat western powder boards. The trick is to find an example of each that works acceptably well in the zone between Eastern Firm (TM) and loose pow/crud/junk. I think I've found the right combo with the Völkl 5 Star and the Völkl Mantra.

Reading in between the lines of your post, I detect that you are not really at home in the powder & natural snow. Wider, softer boards with more float will help immensely in those conditions. The buzz on the Mantra is that it skis like a race ski, so someone like you would adapt quickly to that board. Give them a try if you get a chance.

Or some other wide board. Trying to ski off piste out west on our narrow-waisted ice carvers is using the wrong tool for the job. Yeah, you can make it work, but the right tool makes it so much easier.

Renting powder skis when the forecast calls for fresh is also a viable option. My take is that I'll see enough fresh to make buying a better long-term deal than renting. You'll have to run your own numbers here.
post #5 of 13
The most logical choice would be to get a ski for softer deeper snow days.
post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thank you for responses!

I think I get it: XRC 1100 should be O'K for my racing/carving/groomed skiing, but an upgrade for powder would be reasonable.

Monster 78 or Monster 82 are two moderate upgrades if one does not want to get too radical of a change?
post #7 of 13
when it comes to wider skis: go more radical than you think and you will like them more then you thought
post #8 of 13
beware, having a 2 ski quiver is like having two rabbits before you know it, you'll have more than you can count
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by Arkady View Post
I think I get it: XRC 1100 should be O'K for my racing/carving/groomed skiing, but an upgrade for powder would be reasonable.

Monster 78 or Monster 82 are two moderate upgrades if one does not want to get too radical of a change?
It's been a few years since I skied a Head Monster, but from what I recall it doesn't feel all that different than narrow waisted skis, so if you're looking at an incremental change it might not be a bad choice. IIRC, I skied a 75mm waist.

But I'd recommend at least trying some much wider boards. Those ninety-something mm fatties may look unweildy and hard to handle for those of us used to ~65mm waists, but they aren't nearly as much of a handful as they look. Give a pair of them a try.
post #10 of 13
I just became a two ski quiver guy for the first time. I have had great success with my Metron B5, but added a fat powder ski for those days after a big snowfall. I got the Scott P4...unfortunatley there has not been a big powder day since I got these new skis and there may not be one considering how late in the season it is. My wife is doing the same thing. She skis the Volkl Tierra AC-3 and is looking for a good deal on K2 Phat Luvs. I sincerely believe my 2 pairs will do anything I want and I consider myself a high level 7, low level 8 skiier.
post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 
I understand the main problem of 2-ski quiver: if skis match too well, there is soon a 3-ski quiver, etc. - I think, at this point I feel like picking a powder day, testing some powder skis, including reaaaaly wiiide...currently stuck in the Midwest, it is raining....
post #12 of 13
Build your quiver first and fore-most according to where you hold a pass.

then tinker with specialized yada-yada.

MN = racing sticks.

When you go outwest, and there is snow... demo or buy as the opportunity presents itself.

I want to expand my quiver with an even bigger BM ski. I also plan on a trip to NZ soon. Why would I buy and carry when I can buy hand-made bamboo planks in NZ? Order ahead of time, set up a mounting appointment, go.
post #13 of 13
Normally I would say go with the race boards and demo/rent skis outwest if you want something wider. However after this season being almost entirely spring skiing and putting up crud, slush, and other man made junk since December I decided a wider wasted ski to be a wise choice. I just ordered a pair of Watea 84's to go with my Rossignol World Cup Radical RX.
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