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Toe Lift Inside boot?

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 
Me: 200lbs, aggressive skier, skinny calves, normal dorsiflexion

Boots: Head RS100, with "power plates" (stiffener), spoiler all the way up.

Problem: Having trouble slipping into the back seat. When I deliberately pull my foot back to get forward my forefoot lifts off the footbed so pressure moves to my heel. At other times I find myself pushing down on my forefoot, which hurts and tends to straighten my legs and put me too far forward.

My thoughts: I've always had a slightly unbalanced feeling in these boots as if the boot board was too steep. Putting the spoiler up seems to help, but I feel I've be more balanced if my ankle was still more flexed, and I'd prefer to do it by raising my toes. If I do it outside the boot I'll loose forward lean, so I'm thinking of putting a toe lift between the liner and boot board. There's a little space in the toe box, obviously, as otherwise my forefoot wouldn't be able to lift.

Does this sound right or am I barking up the wrong tree? What's the best thing to use to make a toe lift (I know you can buy heel lifts but I've never seen toe lifts) ?
post #2 of 5
Do you have a footbed/orthotic in this boot? Is it possible that the footbed/orthotic is not shaped correctly in the arch area? Also, if you have a footbed/orthotic, was the bootboard flattened (ie..excess arch,heel varus) to allow for proper alignment. Lastly, try putting the footbed/orthotic into the shell and see how it fits. Does it sit flat? Do the sides of the shell press on the footbed/orthotic?
post #3 of 5
Thread Starter 
I do have a footbed. It was made for an older boot and then reshaped a little to fit this one (this boot is narrower). It was very comfortable in my old boot and has been okay in this one except for the issue described in the OP, and a little arch pain early on which I think is a manifestation of the same problem before the liner packed out a bit. I'm pretty confident that the orthotic itself is good, because I trust the people who made it, and no other bootfitter I've seen since has had a bad word to say. Its relatively "springy", was made unweighted and posted under the heel to correct some heel varus and give me a little more eversion (I have less than 2 degrees naturally).

Now you mention it, though, I think the bootboard for this boot may have a little bit of "arch support" built in. I have very long flat arches (not fallen, just flat). I can imagine that the arch on the bootboard is causing the footbed not to sit flat. I'll try putting the footbed in the shell and see how it fits. I take it if this is problem I need to get someone to grind the bootboard flat (my old boots bootboard was flat)?
post #4 of 5
You could try raising your toes, however for that model boot I am thinking you want to go the opposite direction.

I know you said that it feels like your heel is high. On paper that boot has a very straight spine(shell Forward Lean) and the boot board ramp is low. You might be better served by raising the heel and putting a large FL shim behind your calf. That boot model has some interesting geometry out of the box. It takes a very strong skier to overcome the stock geometry.

Also if the power plate is a "shin plate", meaning in front of the lower leg, try removing it.

How many days on the boots? Maybe time to shore up the fit with a tongue shim. This will help to hold the heel down and back, as well as take some volume out of the forefoot.
post #5 of 5
Thread Starter 
Extra data point: without the power plate I was WAAAAY too far forward on the skis. This felt good as far as my legs were concerned, but was causing the tails to wash out. Putting the power plates in gets rid of that problem, but accentuates the toe lifting problem I described above, which made me think a more flexed position was the answer - obviously I really want to flex my ankles. Am I wrong about that?

I've also been thinking about taking the power plates off and adding a booster strap since I don't really like the feel of the stiff front and I've had good feelings with the boosters fastened over the liner on previous boots. Plus my power strap is getting a bit worn.

These boots have had about 25 days on snow. They're not that old, although there is some clear wear on the liners.
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