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Volkl Chopstick or K2 HellBent

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
I'm in the market for a fat powder ski and these skis are what I've narrowed it down to. I have demoed some HellBents and I know I want a reverse camber ski. I know a volkl rep and can get the chopsticks for $400, but are the HellBents a better ski? I get out 30+ times a year and ski at an advanced to expert level and am 5'10" 160lbs. Suggestions?
post #2 of 13
Are you a jibber or a BM skier? I'm guessing jibber. But jibbing in B-town?

Big Sky or Bridger?

I'm personally dreaming of the Kuro. But I don't do anything faky which would steer me towards the Chopstick.

Nor would I be so inclined to say that the hellbent is a better ski than the chopstick. Not that I've ridden them, but I would imagine it's pretty hard to go wrong with either.
post #3 of 13
The Chopstick has a symmetrical sidecut I believe, which would make it better for park/bc booter related stuff, but I don't think that shape would turn as nice for all mountain use. I'd go with the Kuro if I was getting a powder ski from Volkl next year and wanted reverse camber. Some reviews over at TGR on it are really really positive.
post #4 of 13
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Yea Samurai, I am more of a jibber, and thats pretty much all I do at Bridger is look for stuff to mess around on, and hit some drops as snow permits, and I do like to fakie a decent amount. I saw the Kuro this weekend and it is definitely not what I'm looking for, but still way cool.

How about sizing on the Chopstick? I'm leaning more towards the 175cm, just to be easier to swing around. Definitely would go with the 179 in the Hell Bent though.
post #5 of 13
for the money, I'd grab the chopstick. Heck, if you're willing to pay retail for the Hellbent, that's nearly two pairs of pro-formed volkls.

I think the shape should be more of a debate than the quality of either ski. The hellbent isn't symmetrical.
post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 
The shape doesn't really matter to me, I've had invaders and I have guns now and I never really noticed a big advantage/disadvantage for the difference in shape. Why would a symmetrical, ride different?
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by MSUBozangelas View Post
Why would a symmetrical, ride different?
for the same reason 99% of skis aren't symmetrical.

Which is also very closely related to why so many people hated pocket rockets. (yes many people loved them, too)

Either you hate always feeling like you're going to go over the handle-bars, or you find them very forgiving in the back seat.

the tail on the chopstick is going to be bigger than any tail that has ever existed. maybe you want that.
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by MSUBozangelas View Post
I know a volkl rep and can get the chopsticks for $400
Probably not the best thing to do - advertise that a rep can give you a deal and advertise the price. Lots of industry types and industry heads watch and this type of post gets reps in big doo-doo.

HB
post #9 of 13
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Yea, since I've revealed so much information about anything. You make it sound like the industry has got the government on peoples ass's about this kind of thing.
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by samurai View Post
for the same reason 99% of skis aren't symmetrical.

Which is also very closely related to why so many people hated pocket rockets. (yes many people loved them, too)

Either you hate always feeling like you're going to go over the handle-bars, or you find them very forgiving in the back seat.

the tail on the chopstick is going to be bigger than any tail that has ever existed. maybe you want that.
It's not that simple. Völkl Sumo has a tail dimensions pretty close to its tips. And still many freeskiers love them (incl. "Professor" on TGR forum - a big guy, freeheeler). The mount is probably more traditional though.

And Pocket Rockets skied pretty good in a neutral stance too - kind of like a rockered ski (cause they're so soft, the ski bents into a decambered shape). I found them very good in the trees, pivoted/slarved like a modern "funshapes". Many good skiers skied them too...yes, they were paid to but the design had its merits: remember it was the BC freestyle ski at first, and some people actually used it for that reason!(no offence, I just hate when everyone loves to hate that ski...)
post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by Jiehkevarri View Post
I just hate when everyone loves to hate that ski...
well said.
post #12 of 13
Thread Starter 
Well I went with the Hell Bent, $422 on Backcountry, thanks for you input everyone.
post #13 of 13
You should be stoked. That's a good ski for good money.

That ski will make the O's and D-route a blast!
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