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How to make it to the next level part 2 MA

post #1 of 17
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Well here is another video of my recent ski week! I was hoping for as much feedback as possible as I head out to Lake Tahoe for spring break. Should be a good week of skiing in the West and a time to take a break from exams and school. I want to know what I am doing wrong and what I can do to possibly fix it! I've been trying to stand up more straight and lean more forward. But I think my skiing has progressed quite a bit here are some videos from over the years to help you guys help me thanks! Any help would be awesome as the bears always look out for me!

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How to make it to the next level?
Hello,
Was wondering what more I could do to improve my skiing. Any helpful advice would be great. I've posted some videos of me skiing over the last two years.
I have not been able to get any footage of this year but intend to soon. I ski as much as time will allow as I am a full time student at Suny Albany. I usually try to go three times a week. So I will post new videos soon, also forgive the horrible camera angle. My father shot the footage and did not know how to use the camera properly. But the other videos are all right quality. I want to be able to take my skiing to the next level. Thank you

Last March
http://youtube.com/watch?v=m66C_AJ1x40
http://youtube.com/watch?v=k1hFGZbbWgU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=re92RfJg-Ok

Two years ago
http://youtube.com/watch?v=K5ACtFwoglU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=b33TuIo0J6g

Jiminy Peak diamonds this week:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyodGVEVsfc
post #2 of 17
Great progress and great skiing and great filming. I cannot remember the feedback I gave you before if I gave any but to mee it seems like you still strugle with being in the back seat. It is offcourse also a technique issue but I think the first thing you need are new boots and skis with more lift under bindings and better turning properties, like modern slalom skis. If you want to take your skiing to the next level that would be one component I would seriously consider attending to. To me it looks like your skis are not giving you anything back, its only you doing all the work, and your boots allow you to sit back comfortably. When it comes to technique you start every turn with an up move. Yes, the dredded up-unweighing move . In your case its an easy fix, its baicly a timing issue that has a lot to do with ski rebound. Something you are missing due to your current ski/boot combo and setup. Talk to your dad because now is the right time to upgrade your equipment. Once you get good boots and nice sandwich skis (head supershapes for example) you will first find out that you cant ski at all only to find out that with small adjustments you have taken your skiing to the next level.
post #3 of 17
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Well I think I need new boots because the boots I have are 8 years old! But when I ski I try to put as much pressure on the front tounges of my boots to assure I am leaning forward. But my boots kind of pull me back. I think I might try boot lifts in the mean time until I can find a good bootfitter. I'll be in tahoe this week and might go see Bud H. But other than equipment has my skiing gotten any better of do you really think its a equipment isssue. Thanks bears!
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
Bump more comments please! Here are pics of my boots and ski's! Do I need new boots and skis? The last video is with my pink park skis and the first videos are on the sx-10's. What so you think? Thanks!

Skis pink=park ski's green= race skis

8 year old boots

bumpity bump
post #5 of 17
I think your skiing looks much better than before but your park skis are maybe not the best for the kind of skiing you are trying to demo.
post #6 of 17
Your "leaning more forward" has become a bending at the waist. When you tip your torso forward, you tend to push your backside back to counterbalance. The net result is your center of mass is not forward, but remains behind your feet.

You need to stand up and let your pelvis move over your feet for starters.

Pushing your butt back means you flex your knees. So when you start a turn with that pop up extension, it's mostly up at the knee joint. If you were standing taller at the pelvis, your knees would be flexed less and your extension could be more from the ankles. That would reduce the pop up.

You make your extension primarily with the outside foot of the turn. If you watch, you can see in many of the turns that the inside ski comes off the snow. You should go make a bunch of turns where you feel the bottoms of both feet when you extend. If you are feeling the bottoms of both feet, your legs will be perpendicular to whatever surface you're on and your pelvis will be moving forward into the turn instead of straight up. As this movement becomes more familiar, you'll find less need to actually spring up to start turns.
post #7 of 17
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So how do I fix this problem? Do I stand taller? Do I not bend over at all? Or should the main goal be to keep my weight over my skiis? Please explain further. Should I get new equipment all together. Ive already skiied almost 50 times this year but really want to improve and become more of an expert skiier, stronger, faster, etc. Should I take a lesson somewhere? Or should I just give up skiing all together. Ive come to the conclusion that I can't progress anymore and that this is the best I'll ever be. I love to ski but I want to be an awesome skiier that maybe one day become a ski instructor out at Tahoe. I'll be hopefully moving there to finish school.
post #8 of 17
You don't need to be an expert skier to be an instructor. You need good people skills and an open mind. The trainers can teach you to ski better.



RE: exercises, Try skiing backwards. (really!) Easy slopes first, then a little steeper. Start in a backwards wedge and work on this, then try parallel turns. . As you do this, take note of what it feels like for your feet and your body position. You will find that it is very hard to sit back and still control your skis.
Than take that same feeling you have with your feet and body position and ski forwards just trying to duplicate the same feel and body position you had in your backwards skiing. It will be static and "contrived" as you learn what it feels like. Then slowly add back in your dynamic movements of the turns you are currently making.

Next on some very flat runs,

Then do start trying to do some 360's (on the snow, no air). The more subtle you can be with your edges/balance, the more fluid you can be with the spins.. do them slow, do them fast, play with the feeling. As you get better at this you will learn how subtle you can be to release your edges and not fall over.

Then take the subtle edge changes and subtle "up movement" to release your edges into your more dynamic turns.
post #9 of 17
re: your boots.

You can try removing the spoilers in the back of the cuff. Then instead of putting the power strap over the shell, put it under the shell.

Put your feet in the boot, buckle the top buckle as loose as possible.
Flex into the boot hard to get your heel to seat in the heel pocket..
Then undo the top buckle and put the power strap on. Do what you need to get it to pull the tongue back against your shin nice and snug. Then buckle up the top two buckles fairly loose. (just enough to snug up the top) buckle the lower two buckles just enough to keep your feet from moving sideways.

This should allow you to flex those boots better and not get thrown back when you try to flex your ankles. The boots will bend instead of stopping your forward movement through the boot and cause your rear to drop back so much. The removing of the spoilers will allow you to stand a little taller (less preflex of the ankles)

DC
post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dchan View Post
re: your boots.

You can try removing the spoilers in the back of the cuff. Then instead of putting the power strap over the shell, put it under the shell.

Put your feet in the boot, buckle the top buckle as loose as possible.
Flex into the boot hard to get your heel to seat in the heel pocket..
Then undo the top buckle and put the power strap on. Do what you need to get it to pull the tongue back against your shin nice and snug. Then buckle up the top two buckles fairly loose. (just enough to snug up the top) buckle the lower two buckles just enough to keep your feet from moving sideways.

This should allow you to flex those boots better and not get thrown back when you try to flex your ankles. The boots will bend instead of stopping your forward movement through the boot and cause your rear to drop back so much. The removing of the spoilers will allow you to stand a little taller (less preflex of the ankles)

DC

Thanks I'll try this tomorrow!
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
How do you remove the spoilers? I tried and can't remove them. Any thoughts?
post #12 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kneale Brownson View Post
Your "leaning more forward" has become a bending at the waist. When you tip your torso forward, you tend to push your backside back to counterbalance. The net result is your center of mass is not forward, but remains behind your feet.

You need to stand up and let your pelvis move over your feet for starters.

Pushing your butt back means you flex your knees. So when you start a turn with that pop up extension, it's mostly up at the knee joint. If you were standing taller at the pelvis, your knees would be flexed less and your extension could be more from the ankles. That would reduce the pop up.

You make your extension primarily with the outside foot of the turn. If you watch, you can see in many of the turns that the inside ski comes off the snow. You should go make a bunch of turns where you feel the bottoms of both feet when you extend. If you are feeling the bottoms of both feet, your legs will be perpendicular to whatever surface you're on and your pelvis will be moving forward into the turn instead of straight up. As this movement becomes more familiar, you'll find less need to actually spring up to start turns.

Skibum, this was a good post. Heed it.
post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 
thanks everyone will put advice to work and post more videos
post #14 of 17
To remove the spoilers, Unless you have a pair that don't come with them (I think yours do, Maybe one of the fitters will recognize your particular model) there is usually an allen screw on the back of the cuff near the top. It usually also goes through the power strap.. You may have to remove the liners to get to it or at least push the liner out of the way.
post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 
thanks I'll do this right now as I head up to the mountain thank you and I'll have more video today! Will post later!
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by skibum#1 View Post
So how do I fix this problem? Do I stand taller? Do I not bend over at all? Or should the main goal be to keep my weight over my skiis? Please explain further. Should I get new equipment all together.
I'd start with dchan's suggestion to try skiing backward, at least the part about skiing backward in a wedge and paying attention to where you feel pressures in your boots, where your pelvis goes in relation to your feet and how erect you stand at the waist. Do it on relatively easy terrain. Then, as David says, turn around and keep the same posture while you ski forward down that terrain.


It's not the vehicle, it's the driver. Don't blame the equipment yet, and don't be in such a hurry. You've improved your skiing a great deal in the last couple of years. Keep working on it and you'll continue to see improvement. The more you ski and learn about how you ski, the better you'll be prepared when you get a chance to do some instructor training.
post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks KB for the comments. I'm not trying to blame the equipment but rather I want to know if it's time for new boots. I love my park skis (pink atomics) They work awesome and I love how they make me feel on the mountain. Confident and in control there my favorite skis ever! I know my skiing has improved quite a bit since I started my new addiction again. This year I've been about 45 times and try to go as much as possible because I fell in love with skiing again! Not to sound cocky but I can ski anything on any mountain. I love the steeps out west. I just want to know what would be my best setup be for skiing. I skiied today for five hours on my green atomics and I hated them. They are great skis but I don't get the carving power I do with my twin tips. It just feels like I keep skiing but I have hit a plateau and I want to get better and good enough to where people say I want to rip it like that guy! I'm 29 and have had the good fortune of skiing out west every year since I was 3. My dad owns a house in Tahoe, and I have alot of family in Reno. I've been skiing for 26 years and want to be an awesome skiier. Any more help would be great because eventually I would love to pass on the information to family friends and hopefully students someday. PS is my skiing any good what would be my ranking out of 10 if you guys had to score me. And how much more training would I need to be an awesome skier or how much do I need to improve? Sorry for rambling I have just become very frustrated with my skiing and come here help. Thanks for helping out a fellow strung out skier who needs to find that next fix! But on a serious note this forum has been great to me and DA BEARS have been like family. Thanks again for everything and all your helpful comments! I'll post more video this week! Thank you!::::
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