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Question for RX-8 Skiers - Which ski next?

post #1 of 16
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I ski RX-8 in 165s and I love them. This is my third year with them and I want to add a second pair of skis to my quiver.

I primarily ski the east but hit Vail and Park City this year and will likely do at least one Western trip per year. I am Level 7+ to 8 skier.

I'm going to keep my RX-8s for eastern boilerplate and days I run up to the Poconos with the kids but wanted to move to a wider ski that could handle both eastern and western conditions. I ski groomed runs (love groomed blacks when I can find them) but have been skiing more bumps lately and finally learned how to ski powder. I know the best course is to demo but I have seen some pretty good deals flying around and was considering the following:

K2 Apache Recon
Fisher AMC 79
Dynastar 8000 or 8800
Salomon X-Wing Tornado

Would love to know if any RX-8 users have any of these in their quiver or any other suggestions.
post #2 of 16
yep, mythic rider is a nice ski
post #3 of 16
I scored a great deal on AMC 79's which balance my RX8's perfectly.

I recently used them in 12" of powder at Sunday River and they were great. They were nicer still after all the powder got tracked out and it started raining. They seemed to cut through all the crud with ease.

If i were looking for a western ski, I would go wider. I'm thinking soft Bros for next year.
post #4 of 16
I have Nordica Afterburners to go with my RX8s.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by stoweguy View Post
I scored a great deal on AMC 79's which balance my RX8's perfectly.

I recently used them in 12" of powder at Sunday River and they were great. They were nicer still after all the powder got tracked out and it started raining. They seemed to cut through all the crud with ease.

If i were looking for a western ski, I would go wider. I'm thinking soft Bros for next year.
How are the AMC 79's on hardpack (ie. typical New England conditions). I know they won't be like the RX8's but can they hold an edge?

I don't think I want to go too much wider than 80mm under foot. I want something I can use in the east and bring out west with me to give me a little more float in powder conditions. But I will do 80% of my skiing in the east. I actually skied with my RX8's in 8" of fresh powder in Park City last weekend and did pretty well with them. For real deep stuff, I can always rent if needed.

Do the AMCs have a similar feel to the RXs? I love the feel of my RXs so I'm sort of looking for the same feel and ease of turn initiation with a little more versatility in the soft stuff and crud.

Finally, are your AMCs the same length as your RXs?

Thanks in advance.
post #6 of 16
You may want to look at the Watea also.
post #7 of 16
I also love my RX8s. Great eastern ski, but not the best for more than about 6 inches of fresh. Too narrow and stiff. I picked up a pair of last year's Dynastar 8000s (cheap) to replace my old Rossi Bandits and serve as my eastern powder day ski and to take out west. Just spent 3 weeks in Colorado and was very happy with them. Skied them on everything from groomers to bumps to 10 inches of fresh in the A-Basin bowls. Very versatile and forgiving but plenty of performance when needed. They have a light and lively feel which I prefer.
post #8 of 16

RX8 and B3

170 - RX8's for home which is western NY state

176 - Rossie B3's for trips to Utah/Colorado and spring conditions in Western NY

Pretty different skis but I like them both. The good news is that B3's do a lot of things well and best for me will carve pretty well in soft snow - terrific for really big high speed arcs on the long and wide groomers out west. The RX8's are much better on the truly hard stuff though.
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by GolfingOwl View Post
How are the AMC 79's on hard pack (ie. typical New England conditions). I know they won't be like the RX8's but can they hold an edge?

I don't think I want to go too much wider than 80mm under foot. I want something I can use in the east and bring out west with me to give me a little more float in powder conditions. But I will do 80% of my skiing in the east. I actually skied with my RX8's in 8" of fresh powder in Park City last weekend and did pretty well with them. For real deep stuff, I can always rent if needed.

Do the AMCs have a similar feel to the RXs? I love the feel of my RXs so I'm sort of looking for the same feel and ease of turn initiation with a little more versatility in the soft stuff and crud.

Finally, are your AMCs the same length as your RXs?

Thanks in advance.
My RX8's are a 165
The AMC's are 170
I am about 5'10" and weigh a thundering 135lbs

In my opinion, they do have a similar feel. The AMC's are really pretty good on hard pack but not so nice on ice. I use my RX8's the majority of the time but don't hesitate to spend a day on the 79's if I feel like ripping large radius turns on hard pack.The Fischer edge bevel really helps them hook up on the groomers. On the 79's I don't hesitate to drop into soft stuff and glades. They are a versatile ski. If a were western bound, they would be the ski I would pack.

I don't know if I will be making it back to New England before the end of the season but if I do, you can demo mine

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fischer-AMC-79-1...150 220942141

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fischer-AMC-79-1...150 222874418
post #10 of 16
These 3 do it for me:
Fischer: RX8/Cold Heat
Volkl: Mantra

Stoweguy...eat a sandwich!!
post #11 of 16
a 176cm Watea 84. It feels like a slightly wider RX8... Or a Watea 94, it feels like a much wider RX8!

Michael
post #12 of 16
Having owned a bunch of Fischer skis over the past few years including 2 pairs of RX8s, a pair of RX9s and 2 pairs of RX6s, I would suggest the Fischer Cold Heat since you are looking at skis in the 80mm range. I think that the Cold Heat is a closer version to a wider RX8 than the AMC79.
JMHO.
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
Sounds like a lot of you stick with the Fischers, I assume that is because the feel is similar, which is what I am looking for.

Also seems you guys go longer in the widers skis. I'm 5'8", 165 lbs and ski the 165s in the RX-8. When I bought them, I was waivering between the 160s and 165s and I'm glad I went longer.

Sounds like 170s in the AMC 79 or the 167s in the Waeta 84s might be the way to go.

Thanks for all the suggestions.
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by barrettscv View Post
a 176cm Watea 84. It feels like a slightly wider RX8... Or a Watea 94, it feels like a much wider RX8!

Michael
yup, xactly. No brainer.
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by GolfingOwl View Post
I don't think I want to go too much wider than 80mm under foot.
You might be surprised how nimble some of the wider skis feel.

I ski RX-8's (although Fischer just replaced them with Race SC's on a warranty issue) and have been looking for a 2nd ski for soft eastern conditions. Demo'd a bunch of midfats yesterday including the Watea (84 & 94), Mantra (101?) & Bridge (90) and the Mythic Rider (90). All of these skis are very nimble for their width and seemed to compliment the RX-8's nicely in being a definitely different ski.

I would consider something like the AMC as my day-to-day ski in the East that would have some more versatility that my RX-8's. But as I'm hanging on to my front side carver, I'm thinking something that represents a bolder departure for #2.

As others have suggested, try the Watea. It really does feel like a wide RX-8 . A little softer and wider, but good strong edgehold for its width and that same nice pop from the tail.
post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 
Just scored a pair of brand new 2007 AMC 79s off eBay. Hope to get them before I head up to Sugarbush next week. Thanks for all the opinions.
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