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177 Movement Thunder VS 178 (or 84) Dynastar MR's

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hello all, I have searched extensively and cannot find a comparison between these two skis. I think the 187 Thunder may be too much ski for me, (5'7 150, aggressive) but I am wondering about the stability and stiffness of the 77 compared to the 78 and 84 MR's. Has anyone skied these in the various lengths? Thanks for any help!
post #2 of 12
Thread Starter 
OK, I guess that I got too specific... Has anyone skied the Thunder in any legnth? Any opinions or comparisons to similiar skis (is. MR, 888, im88, etc.) I mananged to get out on the smaller Movement Sparks (121-82-110, 18m R at 173) for a day at MRG a couple weeks ago and really liked how they skied, I just dont need something that size right now.
Thanks for any info about the Thunders!
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
Still nothing, huh? OK... I promise this will be the last time that I reply to myself to bring it higher on the list...



I know that movement is a small relatively new company, but I refuse to believe that NO ONE on here has skied them. Has ANYONE been out on the Thunders at all? Any opinion on them? A comparison between the thunder and other main stream skis of similiar shape and size would be nice, but at this point I'll take any response I can get. If not, I'll give up. :
post #4 of 12
Movement makes some serious skis. They typically need high speeds to get the most out of them. I have not skied the Thunder but I have skied several of their models (including a 2009 demo) and I would agree with your assessment that the 187 Thunder would be a lot to handle at your height and weight. I have skied the 78 MRs and found that they are a far more forgiving ski than the Movements I have tried. I know from speaking with techs at my local shop that they love the Thunder but that it is a ski best used by very proficient skiers at high speeds.

I know that these comparisons won't help a lot but I thought I'd throw my .02 in. If you go with the Thunder, definitely go for the 177.
post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the advice! I too have skied the 78 MR's and I would probably get the 84 if I decide to buy them, but its good to know they are most likely "far more forgiving" than the movements.

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Originally Posted by Alberto View Post
Movement makes some serious skis. They typically need high speeds to get the most out of them... they love the Thunder but that it is a ski best used by very proficient skiers at high speeds... If you go with the Thunder, definitely go for the 177.
This sounds exactly like what I'm looking for! From the feel of the Movement Spark I skied I assumed that the bigger ski would be pretty burly, I'll have to see if I can get my hands on a pair of 177's. I know there's a shop in Burlington that demos some Movements, maybe I'll give 'em a call...
post #6 of 12
Definitely demo the Movements. I have tried the Flame and Spark and just recently tried the Yaka Jam (not the same as the 08 Yaka). The Yaka Jam has me drooling for next year (and I have several mid-fat to wide skis). It's 84 under foot (I think) but with a bigger shovel and more side cut (14m?). I got to ski it in a very short length this past weekend and it was an excellent ski. If you have the chance to try the Goliath and Baggy skis, get out on those too (probably best for wide open, big mtn skiing though). Have fun!
post #7 of 12
Got a few runs in this afternoon on the 177 Thunder. It's a lot of ski. Conditions were not great (very spring-like snow - some corn, some slush, icy spots and some fresh, wet snow falling). I'm 5'8", 180, advanced skier who prefers off piste. My experience today with the Thunder is that is really needs high speeds to come alive. The more you load it up, the more performance it gives you. Definitely not for timid skiers. For me as an advanced skier who can handle most conditions (though no one would emulate my form) at typically higher speeds, this was a ski that I really enjoyed but that I couldn't relax on. For charging A+. But I'm a mortal and I really need less ski. IMHO, the marketing of this ski is spot on: it's a serious skier's ski.
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for checking in again, you said that it "needs more speed to come alive." Is this ski sluggish at lower speeds, too stiff to bend unless u are really moving? How did it perform in bumps, any idea?
post #9 of 12
It's a stiff ski - I needed to get it up to high speed to get it to bend. I would not choose it as a bump-oriented ski. It doesn't have a significant amount of sidecut, but the ski was stiffer than I would want for regular bump use out west (let alone in icy bump conditions). Took the Yaka Jam out again today and tried it on morning ice, manky wind packed snow, some shallow fresh snow (1" or so) and softer bumps. For me, the Yaka Jam is on the top of the list for consideration next year. I greatly preferred it to the Thunder (and I believe that it replaces the Spark next year). A stronger skier (physically and technically) might feel otherwise.
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks again for all the info! I'm not really looking for something to perform in the bumps, just confirming what I thought about the Thunder based on the previous info. I am looking for something to go straight and fast down steeps, and I think that the Thunder will be the appropriate weapon. Now to find 'em for cheap... I've heard all the proforms from this season are long gone...
post #11 of 12
Here ya go....

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=99327

...pretty spot on.

They do require input. If you try to stand over the middle of them you are in for a scary ride! Lots of rebound, stability and power. They really kill it in tough snow conditions - crud, sun baked, two days after a dump, etc...

Bomb proof bases and top sheet. High quality construction and materials. Expensive but worth it.

At your size I would recommend the 177.
post #12 of 12
Great reviews! Noticed your race background - validates what I was saying about the type of skier that will get the most out of this ski. I completely agree with your comments about build quality.
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