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post #31 of 57
10 inches!!! Were the lifts still running?
post #32 of 57
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Originally Posted by tief schnee View Post
10 inches!!! Were the lifts still running?
Every avalung within the tri-state area was on the mountain that day.
post #33 of 57
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
Every avalung within the tri-state area was on the mountain that day.
both of them
post #34 of 57
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
With 10inches of snow on a wider ski you will make it bottomless. I would not hesitate to take out my thugs(192cm/120mmwaist) on 6inch powder day just to keep myself off the bottom. Now if my goal was to ski bumps that day then I might be on something alittle narrower
Josh, I'm not saying that fatter skis don't make powder skiing easier, but as Skier_J said, we're talking 10 inches at Hunter on a windy day. That translates to 20 inches on some trails and 0 inches on others, with blue ice where the 0 inches is. I'd much rather be on 80 mm waists when I hit that blue ice than 100+ mm.
Even when 20+ inches fall with no wind and gets evenly distributed, it's usually tracked out by 11am, and bumped up by 2pm, possibly with ice in between. I usually don't take the time to switch skis during the day.
If I skied in Utah regularly, the 80 or 90mm would be my narrow ski.
post #35 of 57
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Originally Posted by 2-turn View Post
Josh, I'm not saying that fatter skis don't make powder skiing easier, but as Skier_J said, we're talking 10 inches at Hunter on a windy day. That translates to 20 inches on some trails and 0 inches on others, with blue ice where the 0 inches is. I'd much rather be on 80 mm waists when I hit that blue ice than 100+ mm.
Even when 20+ inches fall with no wind and gets evenly distributed, it's usually tracked out by 11am, and bumped up by 2pm, possibly with ice in between. I usually don't take the time to switch skis during the day.
If I skied in Utah regularly, the 80 or 90mm would be my narrow ski.

Smart man.
post #36 of 57
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
But Max, c'mon.

10" is not "deep snow".

Obviously, that LIII didn't need fat skis to ski those conditions perfectly well.

What I learned today is that there really still are a few people out there who can ski boot-top snow without fat skis.

Touché


Gee what did people do way back in the 90's before we all had mid fat's?
Oh yea, I skied this stuff on my 203 Dynastar G9's or 188 K2 Fours.

I remember a photo in Ski Magazine with a couple of guy's in a tent on top of some ridge getting ready to ski a untracked bowl, one of them had G9's.

How did they ever survive????

This is a fun place
post #37 of 57
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post
Touché

Gee what did people do way back in the 90's before we all had mid fat's?
Oh yea, I skied this stuff on my 203 Dynastar G9's or 188 K2 Fours.
This is a fun place
You mean when there were no snowboarders, and only a handful of people could handle powder? When powder days lasted the entire day, and freshies were only a 5 minute hike, days after the storm?
That was a fun place
post #38 of 57
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Originally Posted by 2-turn View Post
You mean when there were no snowboarders, and only a handful of people could handle powder? When powder days lasted the entire day, and freshies were only a 5 minute hike, days after the storm?
That was back when I had to walk three miles through waist-deep snow to get to school each day. Uphill. Both ways.

post #39 of 57
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
That was back when I had to walk three miles through waist-deep snow to get to school each day. Uphill. Both ways.

You forgot the part about "on the back of buffalo"---my dad always added that ---funny he grew up in Florida
post #40 of 57
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Originally Posted by skier_j View Post
You forgot the part about "on the back of buffalo"---my dad always added that ---funny he grew up in Florida
The buffalo was what I had to kill (with my elementary-school blunt-nosed scissors) every day to have something to eat.

Boy, those were good times! I used to have to carry a periscope just to see down the hill on the *average* powder days.
post #41 of 57
Thread Starter 
Today I learned that there are some mean and bitter people on Epicski and when those less than nice people are called out, like any bully, they fold and run away.

I also learned that there are some really good people that are here for reasons other than to insult and pick fights with other skiers; stand up people who follow through with what they say and help when they can.
post #42 of 57

You've been served!

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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
I WANT TO RACE YUKI SKIS and CARS
Don't forget to get video of that and post it
post #43 of 57
yeah ... or stick up for an idea who's time is passed - like skinny straight skis
post #44 of 57
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
10" is not "deep snow".
"Deep" is a relative term. Out west this year, 10" is a dusting. Anywhere else, that is deep pow.
post #45 of 57
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Originally Posted by eblackwelder View Post
"Deep" is a relative term. Out west this year, 10" is a dusting. Anywhere else, that is deep pow.
Its snowing here right now, enough so that we'll be skiing Edge Deep Pow at Caberfae today!!!!

What I learned today is that ...............Some times you hafta embrace the tiny things in life!
post #46 of 57
I learned that it is bittersweet to get a call from the Mrs. who is demoing skis today while I am watching the market continue its slide. I think the bitter part is obvious (but I will add she says the conditions are great), but it is sweet to hear her say "You should see how fast I am skiing on these skis." She has even said that some skis aren't enough ski for her! Wooooohoooooo! Boy am I jealous!

Added on edit...They are even next years skis!
post #47 of 57
I learned that I love my Mojo 90s when there's freshies and I don't care what anyone thinks about it.

I learned that some people will take something like "fat skis float better than skinny ones" and turn it into a pissing contest.

I learned that some people will argue over anything.
post #48 of 57
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Originally Posted by DoWork View Post
I learned that some people will argue over anything.
No they won't.
post #49 of 57
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
No they won't.
post #50 of 57
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
No they won't.

Well too...

But I'll have to pick up on the fight on Monday. Have to go skiing tomorrow and Saturday and Sunday, that will make day 52.
post #51 of 57
post #52 of 57
The Argument Sketch
From "Monty Python's Previous Record" and "Monty Python's Instant Record Collection"
Originally transcribed by Dan Kay (dan@reed.uucp)
Fixed up and Added "Complaint" and "Being Hit On The Head lessons" Aug/ 87
by Tak Ariga (tak@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu)



The Cast (in order of appearance.)
M= Man looking for an argument
R= Receptionist
Q= Abuser
A= Arguer (John Cleese)
C= Complainer (Eric Idle)
H= Head Hitter


M: Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please.
R: Certainly sir. Have you been here before?
M: No, I haven't, this is my first time.
R: I see. Well, do you want to have just one argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?
M: Well, what is the cost?
R: Well, It's one pound for a five minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.
M: Well, I think it would be best if I perhaps started off with just the one and then see how it goes.
R: Fine. Well, I'll see who's free at the moment.
Pause
R: Mr. DeBakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory.
Ahh yes, Try Mr. Barnard; room 12.
M: Thank you.

(Walks down the hall. Opens door.)

Q: WHAT DO YOU WANT?
M: Well, I was told outside that...
Q: Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
M: What?
Q: Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, maloderous, pervert!!!
M: Look, I CAME HERE FOR AN ARGUMENT, I'm not going to just stand...!!
Q: OH, oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse.
M: Oh, I see, well, that explains it.
Q: Ah yes, you want room 12A, Just along the corridor.
M: Oh, Thank you very much. Sorry.
Q: Not at all.
M: Thank You.
(Under his breath) Stupid git!!

(Walk down the corridor)
M: (Knock)
A: Come in.
M: Ah, Is this the right room for an argument?
A: I told you once.
M: No you haven't.
A: Yes I have.
M: When?
A: Just now.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: You didn't
A: I did!
M: You didn't!
A: I'm telling you I did!
M: You did not!!
A: Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
M: Oh, just the five minutes.
A: Ah, thank you. Anyway, I did.
M: You most certainly did not.
A: Look, let's get this thing clear; I quite definitely told you.
M: No you did not.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: You didn't.
A: Did.
M: Oh look, this isn't an argument.
A: Yes it is.
M: No it isn't. It's just contradiction.
A: No it isn't.
M: It is!
A: It is not.
M: Look, you just contradicted me.
A: I did not.
M: Oh you did!!
A: No, no, no.
M: You did just then.
A: Nonsense!
M: Oh, this is futile!
A: No it isn't.
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!

A: Yes it is!
M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
(short pause)
A: No it isn't.
M: It is.
A: Not at all.
M: Now look.
A: (Rings bell) Good Morning.
M: What?
A: That's it. Good morning.
M: I was just getting interested.
A: Sorry, the five minutes is up.
M: That was never five minutes!
A: I'm afraid it was.
M: It wasn't.
Pause
A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue anymore.
M: What?!
A: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
M: Yes, but that was never five minutes, just now. Oh come on!
A: (Hums)
M: Look, this is ridiculous.
A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!
M: Oh, all right.
(pays money)
A: Thank you.
short pause
M: Well?
A: Well what?
M: That wasn't really five minutes, just now.
A: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.
M: I just paid!
A: No you didn't.
M: I DID!
A: No you didn't.
M: Look, I don't want to argue about that.
A: Well, you didn't pay.
M: Aha. If I didn't pay, why are you arguing? I Got you!
A: No you haven't.
M: Yes I have. If you're arguing, I must have paid.
A: Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.
M: Oh I've had enough of this.
A: No you haven't.
M: Oh Shut up.

(Walks down the stairs. Opens door.)

M: I want to complain.
C: You want to complain! Look at these shoes. I've only had them three weeks and the heels are worn right through.
M: No, I want to complain about...
C: If you complain nothing happens, you might as well not bother.
M: Oh!
C: Oh my back hurts, it's not a very fine day and I'm sick and tired of this office.


(Slams door. walks down corridor, opens next door.)

M: Hello, I want to... Ooooh!
H: No, no, no. Hold your head like this, then go Waaah. Try it again.
M: uuuwwhh!!
H: Better, Better, but Waah, Waah! Put your hand there.
M: No.
H: Now..
M: Waaaaah!!!
H: Good, Good! That's it.
M: Stop hitting me!!
H: What?
M: Stop hitting me!!
H: Stop hitting you?
M: Yes!
H: Why did you come in here then?
M: I wanted to complain.
H: Oh no, that's next door. It's being-hit-on-the-head lessons in here.
M: What a stupid concept.
post #53 of 57
I believe it is "gobutit" not "gob, you tit"

... and I can't believe I just corrected a Monty Python transcript! Sorry.
I cant help it if I take the innertubes too serious-like.
post #54 of 57
Fat skis are not required, but I don't doubt they make things a lot easier for the less talented.

I don't know how much waist width makes things easier, as compared to turn shape, but I skied my old 190 cm Volants in 40 cm (over a foot) of fresh wet snow and they were great, much easier to ski than my 165 cm Fischer WC SC skis. Dims are 104 - 68 - 90 for the Volants, 118 - 66 - 99 for the Fischers. The Volants are wider in the waist by 2 mm, but the Fischers have a wider shovel by 12 mm, and tail by 9 mm.

The really fat skis probably allow you to make all the mistakes you can get away with on groomed slopes in the snow.
post #55 of 57
Thread Starter 
I learned that ski wax can be recycled and that I now have a-lot of it!
post #56 of 57
So unless you're among the first on the mountain on a powder day it's "pain and suffering"??

So a powder day is "ruined" by choosing the wrong ski??

Wow...so much to unlearn...
post #57 of 57

Bump for Throwback Thursday.  This thread had me laughing for at least a week

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