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recreational skis for a 16 yr old

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My daughter is looking for a fat recreational ski. She is 16 yrs old and stopped ski racing (FIS level) and is currently a ski coach. She wants to get a pair of fat skis (e.g, over 88 mm) and we were curious what will work for her. Info: 115 lbs, 5' 2", expert skier for a teenager. She skis mostly in the Pacific NW, with a few trips to B.C., Idaho, and Colorado. She is currently skiing on Elan race stock 187 cm GS skis and 155 cm SL skis. She will sell her GS and SG skis, but keep her SL skis for hardpack and groomers. She will keep her Lange plug boots for her skiing. We are not in a rush to purchase - fall 2009 will work. Any suggestions or comments. Thanks for the help. cmr
post #2 of 12
what type of coaching is she doing?

please relize that I have skied these in the sizes that are larger than what she should be looking at but these opinions should hold true in the smaller lenghts

picks for a former FIS racer who likes elan

1st - Head Im88 165cm or 175cm - damp, easy to ski, yet super stable and feels tank like...also wait for the IM94 to come out as well

2nd Volkl Mantra 170cm or even 177cm(volkl measure really short) - soft tip, stiff mid body and tail, carves groomers like a champ while still floating powder and busting crud.

3rd Elan 888 - I feel this ski is slightly more demanding than the head or mantra and could be a problem for someone just over 100lbs....the skis is stable, stiff and rewards speed and good technique. The 168cm could work great.

also I would think your daughter could ski anything just what is she really looking for?
post #3 of 12
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Since she is only 16 yrs old, she is coaching J4 skiers. I am not sure that Elan is her only ski of choice. I suspect that if she continued to ski, she would probably be on Fisher. Good idea on the Mantra. Do you think that 170's are too big for her - not because of technique, just her size? The other skis that she asked about were Fisher Watea or Dynastar Mythic's? thanks, cmr
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My daughter is looking for a fat recreational ski. She is 16 yrs old and stopped ski racing (FIS level) and is currently a ski coach. She wants to get a pair of fat skis (e.g, over 88 mm) and we were curious what will work for her. Info: 115 lbs, 5' 2", expert skier for a teenager. She skis mostly in the Pacific NW, with a few trips to B.C., Idaho, and Colorado. She is currently skiing on Elan race stock 187 cm GS skis and 155 cm SL skis. She will sell her GS and SG skis, but keep her SL skis for hardpack and groomers. She will keep her Lange plug boots for her skiing. We are not in a rush to purchase - fall 2009 will work. Any suggestions or comments. Thanks for the help. cmr
Wow, impressive accomplishments for a young girl!
I am eager to give her some ideas for demo time, but first, I'm curious if she is looking for something women specific, or unisex.
At her weight, I'm inclined to suggest women specific, as they would be softer, Blizzard Eos (88w), Elan Free Spice (88), or the Volkl Aura (94).
But since she's presumably a strong skier and knows how to flex a ski, she may want to go to a unisex ski.
Many options if you're thinking Unisex skis for her, not to leave out the Boutique skis such as BlueHouse and Bro.

As an example, I am fairly muscular, 5'6" 120 lbs, and My skis of choice in this range tend to be the Blizzard Eos, (fun in the bumps and really playful), and the BlueHouse MR171(93 w) which has been nothing but grins every time I've been on them. The BH is a noodle, nimble and stable, but more than anything just fun to play on and throw around.

Now to really confuse you.......
I just ordered some 174 Soft Bros (99w)and can hardly wait to try them out.
I believe there are areas you can demo these in your area. Contact Tyrone Shoelaces if you'd like to see her demo these.

At any rate, she should demo if she can, because she'll know when she gets her grins!!
post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 
Trekchick has a good point. She was not thrilled about "girls skis', mostly from a K2 demo a few years ago during spring break. She can really flex a ski, so she was looking at unisex skis. I like the idea for her to demo a few skis We will take a week long ski break in mid-march - I wonder how we can find some decent demos. She was thinking of standard brands (Head, Volkl, or Fisher), because she thought that she could get a deal as a ski coach. The 174 Bros sound great, but might be difficult to find. Thanks!
post #6 of 12
Gotama. 17x or 183

Where does she ski?
post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 
She skis at Mission Ridge, but many other areas in the PacNW. A friend suggested a few other skis for her. We also decided, since she likes to start and finish turns, race-type sandwich construction and a non-twin tip ski is perhaps a better match for her.
What do you think of the following skis:
Rossi B Squad W either 164 or 174
Volki Mantra either 164 or 174
What about the Volki Aura (170 cm) - differences with Manta
2009 Head Mojo 94 (173cm)
post #8 of 12
all the skis I mentioned were non twined, and sidewall/sandwich construction.

FYI a twin tip can do anything a non twined ski and can do and more its up to the skier not the ski.

Also 170cm would not to big. but at mission maybe something alittle narrow like the IM88 or Elan 888 would be prefered due to not really that much snow there.
post #9 of 12
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I have little memory - nice reminder about skis and length BushwackerinPA. The only reason I made the comment on twintips a comment made from a sponsored big mtn skier. He thought without a flat tail, its hard to really finish a turn on hardpack. FYI, She is not interested in terrain parks. My guess is that on hardpack, my daughter will use her SL skis anyway. Mission does not have that much snow, but we do travel and get to ski in deep and heavy snow. She gets up to Alpental, as well as Bachelor and Crystal. For some reason, most friends suggest she get a ski that is 95-100cm underfoot.
post #10 of 12
Since she is a former racer (and currently coaching), I have to agree with the list from Bushwacker. She will most likely prefer a stable ski that is able to handle powder and crud and also rail on the groomers. Definitely a vertical sidewall/sandwich construction.
I am also a former racer and coach, and chose the IM88 as my everyday ski for Utah. It feels like a GS on the groomed and can still handle the powder and crud really well. Make no mistake, it is not a true powder ski ... but is my ski of choice for 90% of my days.
post #11 of 12
as an aside, she would really LOVE Santa if he/she set her up with some softer coaches boots. It is a very long winter in plug boots standing on the hill.

--good luck to her, may she enjoy it as much I do-------
post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the suggestions. I will speak with reps from Head and Volkl for demo skis. The plug boot - difficult subject. She has commented on the fit (its really a race fit) and how cold her feet get. She asked for similar race boot, with a recreational fit - but I am not sure what she wants. Since she put lots of time and effort with her boot fitter to get the boots fitting perfectly, I rather not change something that works.
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