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post #1 of 15
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I never thought that skiing too well would invite injury. Imagine my surprise. I took my family for our first visit to Jay Peak for what I hoped would be a week of big pow in the east skiing. Not so much. Rain and 50 degrees on Monday and just a bit of frosting over ice and hard the rest of the week. So you make the best of what you get. And over the week, with my first custom footbeds, a little softening of the old XT17's and sharp edges, I was actually beginning to enjoy hardpack/ice and I was able to rip down pitches where others were foundering. It attracted some unfortunate attention. As I was skiing down the right edge of a trail, safely away from other traffic, I saw someone at the bottom of the pitch. So I began a gradual line to the left. A few seconds into the sweep I felt something funny between my feet and looked down to discover a ski that is not attached to my body. It all unfolded pretty fast after that. I remember trying to stay upright, and then going down on my back and smacking the back of my helmet on the hard pack. I definitely remember blessing the day I decided to wear one. I came to rest in a bit of a heap, stunned by it all. And I hear a lady 20' up the hill yelling to see if I was OK. And then I figured out that she must have had something to do with it. And I asked if she was OK which she was. I am still a bit scrambled when she comes over and explains that she saw me come down, really admired my skiing and wanted to ski my "line." She kept saying this over and over. I do not know what this means, but assume that she took up a position behind me. How her skis got tangled in my legs is something I did not have the presence of mind to ask her, not did I much care. All I knew was that nothing was broken (and I know what that feels like) and that I was just dazed, not unconscious thanks to the helmet (which now has several dents from the impact). I lay on the ground for a few minutes getting my marbles back, shake myself off and say a short one to the Almighty. No problem on the way down so I went up again. And that is when I felt this small twinge on the in my right knee. Not acute pain, limited mobility or locking (my mind went through the diagnostic checklist) but just a bit of tenderness. By the time I got down, I was basically one leg skiing. Hobbled up to the lodge. Hiked up the longies but did not see any obvious swelling or bruising.
Over the past 36 hours I have been dealing with what I am quite confident is a torn medial meniscus. And the various stages of injury - denial, anger, resignation, whatever. I'll head off to the docs tomorrow. Probably an MRI to definitively diagnose. What I sense right now is the end of the season. So I have been running this through my mind - mostly to figure out if there was a way that I could have avoided it from happening in the first place. I am not into blame. Skiing has its pleasures and perils. I accept this. Sometimes all you can do is to ski in a way that eliminates injury that you might cause to others. I have been skiing for more than 40 years and have learned from every experience. This has made me a very careful, even paranoid skier. That is why I picked the line furthest away from all the other traffic to my left which was appropriately slow for their skill/comfort level. My gradual move left was to sweep away from downed traffic ahead. Granted, I did not look up the hill as I began the line to the left. If I had, perhaps I would have seen her, but I was already 150' or more into the turn and was nearly finished with it when she caught me from behind. I don't think I would have seen her if I looked left since she was apparently behind me, skiing my "line" and not on an intersecting course. And of course she saw me, intentionally put herself behind me and followed me long enough to know precisely what I was doing. I think maybe she fell and took me down with her because she also kept talking about how icy it was and that she would not want her kids out there. Anyway, this was not the end to week I was hoping for - but you put your money down and you takes your chances. Friends, be careful out there - and keep a sharp eye out for those that admire you.
post #2 of 15
OUCH, rear ended! There's not much I can say. Glad it wasn't worse. Your kids weren't witnesses were they? I guess that is one of he many things that sucks about it is that it happened on a family trip.

Keep the spirits up best you can, but good to vent about it too.
post #3 of 15
Sorry to hear about that. I just spent 10 day's at Okemo with on mishaps. What you describe is my biggest fear. I tend to ski fast, I have at times seen blue jeans in the corner of my eye's, very scary to think someone in blue jeans is skiing fast enough to catch me and get that close to me. I always look before I make a big direction change.

Good luck hope it's nothing to bad.
post #4 of 15
d1... Positive vibes your way... I hope you are fortunate and it's not as bad as you think...
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks my friends for your good tidings. Well wishes are powerful healing tools.
post #6 of 15
Maybe its not as bad as you think. I have had very sore knees where the pain lasted for months, got all checked out no tears even where I was convinced I had one.
post #7 of 15
I too was at Jay Peak for vacation week. On our last day I was clipped from behind but I stayed upright and stopped. The guy who hit me had had a very spectacular yard sale. I was skiing fast. He was skiing faster. He said I came into his line. I told him it was an uncrowded slope and I like to use all of it. He said it's your fault. I said no it's your's and since he was ok I skied off before things got any worse.
post #8 of 15
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Richie-Rich, good for you man. That is a bullet I hope to dodge too. Actually just got back from my PCP. Good news so far. No laxity/looseness in the knee joint (ie: ACL all good) and no pain with the maneuver that is designed to "grind" the meniscus, and provoke a response. Still have other clinical signs of a meniscus or posssible medial lateral ligament issue. But I am moving around a bit better today (less than 48 hrs post impact) and that has my spirits up. In fact, I read a SKI mag in the waiting room - power of positive thinking. My PCP's hubby is a sports rehab doc and she will get me into him shortly. Like she said to may face - "the problem we are going to have with you is giving this time to heal." But spring skiing is around the corner, I whined. Then I get the stern look. "At least you had a helmet on", she said. "It saved your life." No doubt. The blessed thing has several dents meant for my head.
Crank, glad you got away. It can get ugly. And parts of Jay were an absolute zoo. What gets me is that this woman who cleaned my clock deliberately put us both at risk by putting herself close to me. More I think about it, I think that she was not able to control her speed (you know how icy it was) and she could not bail out of the line and took me out. And as I am laying on the ground getting my marbles back, she kept saying "and we're both such good skiers...." Right.
post #9 of 15
Originally Posted by deliberate1 View Post
But spring skiing is around the corner, I whined.
I was dumb enough to attempt this last year. Three runs later I went home, and wound up wearing a brace through August.
post #10 of 15
Sorry to hear that David, I hope it turns out OK; you never know -- could be minor. I have had a couple minor knee injuries that allowed me to finish out the season skiing conservatively, with full healing during the off-season. Good luck! -- Craig

P.S. Good skier or not, she was definitely out of control if she overtook you on a wide open slope and hit you from behind.
post #11 of 15
That really sucks dude, I would have a hard time not calling that lady some select terms like, you stupid ****ing c-word. You should have followed her back to her husband and beat his ass right in front of her.

One advantage of snowboarding, you do have some vision behind you, the last person that skied into me from behind got puunched in the face with my right hand as I threw him off the tail of my board.
post #12 of 15
My the injury be nothing serious, D1!
post #13 of 15
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Comprex, you are my montra.
D'animals dead, wish I had you there. Whilst I was reconnecting with mother earth and my corpse, you could have shown them your talents. Thanks for all the sweetness one and all. Really appreciate it. We snowgoing folk live among the best.
post #14 of 15


Best wishes David....

Still holding out hope we can get hooked up for a few turns this season my friend.

Just got back from 1/2 day at wa and it was wonderful...met and ski'd with another new bear too(mishka)

Back to work tomorrow after over a week off...
post #15 of 15
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hrstrat57, greatful for your kind thoughts. Actually was thinking about you and your clan last week when we were at Jay. I saw several folks with wa paraphernalia who obviously abandoned their beloved home hill for Jay. What's with that?
Maybe my doc would release me early to ski a little hill.......
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