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Volkl Katana - Successful?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
I noticed an unusually large number of Volkl Katana's for sale on ebay, some at suprisingly low bid prices.

Does anyone know if the Katana was successful as expected for Volkl?
post #2 of 23
Skis like the Katana aren't made to be commercially successful the first year they're out. They are made to promote 'image', as such I'd say it was a very successful. The 'early adapters' are generally shop kids, patrollers and instructors who aren't paying retail, in a season or two consumers will catch on and start to buy, so we'll know the commercial success in a couple of season's. Look at the Gotama, after five years it is EXTREMELY popular, but it's taken three years to get there.

The Katana skis very well, I think it's a 'better' ski than the gotama.
post #3 of 23
I have friend who in addition to his Katanas has sumos, gots (in multiple lengths) mantras and sanouks as well as having owned explosivs in the past.

He seemed to find the katana to be a let down as far as performance goes.
post #4 of 23
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Originally Posted by PhilT View Post
I have friend who in addition to his Katanas has sumos, gots (in multiple lengths) mantras and sanouks as well as having owned explosivs in the past.

He seemed to find the katana to be a let down as far as performance goes.
That's interesting because here in Jackson Hole the Katana seems to be EXTREMELY well received. A bunch of people I know are skiing it and seem to rave about it.

Of course, we've had more than 35 feet of snow so far this winter, so THAT probably doesn't hurt in peoples' reviews of big skis.

Anyway, it seems to be very popular here.
post #5 of 23
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
That's interesting because here in Jackson Hole the Katana seems to be EXTREMELY well received.
^^^What he said.

It is just a little more big mountain and big powder than most people are used to skiing. It does take a special type of skier to ski it well.

Not for small balled.
post #6 of 23
I have the 190 Katana. I think it is the best multi purpose all mountain big resort ski I have ever tried. Ofcourse it´s no pure powder ski, but it still perform good enough in fresh pow and handles different snow conditions better than most skis in the category. And still it is actually very, very nice on hardpack. It carves tight turns and holds the edge suberbly. Maybe a bit small in feel for the really hard charging guys but I (181cm/75kg:s) like the quick and snappy feel and the easy handling. It´s like the best 95mm skis, but with the benefit of a wider waist and without most of the downsides that normally comes with a 110mm+ ski.
post #7 of 23
How does it compare to goat, sumo and fat bro?
post #8 of 23
That's very interesting!
Do you guy's think the Katana will perform well for me? (6'2, 240 pds)
I believe its a pretty stiff ski?
post #9 of 23

Katana length

I'm very interested in the Katana but am vacillating on the lengtht. No, I haven't demoed because I haven't been able to coordinate a demo on a big powder day...but I have held and fondled the 183 and just wonder if it is the right length. I'm 6 foot and 225; a little older than many of you at 59. But a well advanced skier too. I am thinking perhaps of more recreational powder skiing than hard charging big mountain powder skiing. Any thoughts?
post #10 of 23
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Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
I'm very interested in the Katana but am vacillating on the lengtht. No, I haven't demoed because I haven't been able to coordinate a demo on a big powder day...but I have held and fondled the 183 and just wonder if it is the right length. I'm 6 foot and 225; a little older than many of you at 59. But a well advanced skier too. I am thinking perhaps of more recreational powder skiing than hard charging big mountain powder skiing. Any thoughts?
Yes, I have a thought... there are better skis for you than the Katana.
post #11 of 23
Back to the original question:

As Bob Peters said, the Katana is extremely popular at Jackson Hole, I'll bet it is on a lot of feet at Snowbird, Squaw Valley and Kirkwood as well. In a year or two it will be more popular, there is a limited market for a ski like this, I'm predicting it mirrors the Legend Pro Rider, a ski that took a couple years for consumers to 'discover'. I'll go on record saying anyone who really likes the Mantra and wants a bigger ski to compliment it will LOVE the Katana.
post #12 of 23

Katana

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Originally Posted by marot858 View Post
I have the 190 Katana. I think it is the best multi purpose all mountain big resort ski I have ever tried. Ofcourse it´s no pure powder ski, but it still perform good enough in fresh pow and handles different snow conditions better than most skis in the category. And still it is actually very, very nice on hardpack. It carves tight turns and holds the edge suberbly. Maybe a bit small in feel for the really hard charging guys but I (181cm/75kg:s) like the quick and snappy feel and the easy handling. It´s like the best 95mm skis, but with the benefit of a wider waist and without most of the downsides that normally comes with a 110mm+ ski.
+2

It is extremely agile on hardpack and very quick turning for such a big ski.

I have the 183 and find the ski to be alot of fun, better than the Gotama imho.

You really have to ski it to know what its like, because the dimensions scare off alot of people who have not experienced its capabilities.
post #13 of 23

Warning: Serious Thread Hijack

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Originally Posted by PhilT View Post
I have friend who in addition to his Katanas has sumos, gots (in multiple lengths) mantras and sanouks as well as having owned explosivs in the past.

He seemed to find the katana to be a let down as far as performance goes.
And I thought *I* had plenty of skis.

That is one serious big-ski quiver for one person. I'd be really jealous if I could ski more than one pair of skis at a time.

Is your boot-sole length the same as his?
post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
And I thought *I* had plenty of skis.

That is one serious big-ski quiver for one person. I'd be really jealous if I could ski more than one pair of skis at a time.

Is your boot-sole length the same as his?
I only listed his volkls.....he has many more.

And NO he has TINY feet, drives me nuts.

Maybe he'll post in this thread, I really shouldn't speak for him but I see his sumos out a lot more than his katanas and he seems to think it is one of the most underrated skis.
post #15 of 23
when I busted out my gotamas in 04 at Kirkwood, I got laughed at.

That's how strange first-year perceptions can be.

Not to mention all those that gauffed at the spatula (for a decade).
post #16 of 23
Delamination issues have been leading to an above average return rate , resulting in a slow down in sales . A great ski when they fix the problem . Its not better or worse than the goat just different .
I'm not sure how you wouldnt consider a 110 mm no camber ski a powder ski?
post #17 of 23
I ski Gotamas and Katanas. I took the Katanas cat skiing earlier this winter and thought I'd died and gone to heaven. For me, I like to ski pow super fast. They're the shiz. And they turn very easily in the trees.

However, back in the real world, I use my Goats for day to day. I would not be a happy camper if the Katana were my one ski quiver. Katanas are a terrific ski but, for sure, not for everyone. I have not experienced the delam issues which were reported a bit on tetongrav.
post #18 of 23
Can anyone make a direct comparison of the Katana to the Sanouk. There all still Sanouks for sale out there and I have always lusted after them, but the Katana looks to be a bit more versitile.
post #19 of 23
Didn't want to start another thread so here goes.

I'm using Armada 07 Pipe Cleaners 176 cm, and find them lacking on the powder and bumps since its a park ski.

I was wondering if the katana is worth getting for deep powder/bumps or should I be looking to get another type of ski, solely for powder and im also looking at models from the last couple years since i wanna stick around a $100-$150 for used skiis.
post #20 of 23
Just back from western circuit; on Jackson locals - who truly know how to charge - saw more Katanas, Dynastar XXL's, and various aged Goats than anything else, some Scott P4's and Nordica Superchargers, smattering of Lines, Igneous, 4Frnt's and Armadas. All well worn, all usually mounted with tele or AT, and all far away from groomed by 9 am. At Sun Valley, which caters more to folks who fly in on their own jet and stop for a linen tablcloth lunch, zip. Draw your own conclusions...
post #21 of 23

katana review

I have owned katanas in 183 and 190 (I bent the 183's in an unfortunate collision). I moved up to the 190 because the skis ski quite short for their labeled length. They measure short too. The effective running length of the 190 is about 184 or so. I love my katanas, they work like a really big, stable mantra with a much more correct (further back) binding location. They carve really well in deep-ass powder and just seem to surf on top. I disagree with the comment that they require a hard-charging, ballsy pilot. I am too old, fat and mellow to huck cliffs and charge crazy lines and, while I am sure they could do these things, they are easily handled at more sane velocities. Very versitile and smooth ski and graphics aren`t quite as ugly as most skis now.
post #22 of 23
I've heard there have been durability issues, namely fragile sidewalls and paper thin basses.

I've heard they ski nice though. I might pick up a pair next spring if they get the durability issues worked out.
post #23 of 23
In an attempt to expand my quiver, this past season I demoed both 183 Katanas and 183 Gotamas for two days each at Squaw and Alpine. All on new snow powder days in January and February. I skiied the Katanas at Squaw the day after the 5 ft dump this past winter. I am 6', 205 lbs.

I found that the Katanas would float real high, and cut through ANY crud and beat up powder. They're bad ass in that respect (my old skis are Rossignol B2s which get man-handled in those situations...). The Katanas were relatively fast for being in waist deep powder =) . I did find that on hardpack/groomers they were absolutely not "extremely agile on hardpack", but I am also new on such wide waisted skis. I also found that, I like to sit in the snow a little bit when there is powder and while the Katanas really floated me nicely, I prefered to sit down a little deeper. I did find myself crossing the tips some and I attribute that to skiing a 183 as opposed to a 174.

I absolutely loved the Gotama. They floated real nice, but I still felt in touch with the snow. They're a little more flexy, so they get pushed around more than the katanas, Buuuut I really like their forgiveness. They turn faster than the Katana, and when on hardpack, I can actually get the edge in real nice and cruuuuuuuiiiiise.

In the end I ended up buying the Gotamas. WOOOHOOOO GOATS!!!!!

As far as the Katanas being successful, I'm not sure if they were. What niche there were aiming for? They were a fun ski, but they'd have maybe a 4th or 5th slot in my quiver. 1st slot = B2's for hardpack, early season rock hopping, 2nd slot = Gotamas for powder days, mid season and early spring skiing, 3rd slot = Stupidly large powder only ski. Maybe reverse camber if I felt fun. 4th = Katana for hard charging deep snow which I'd see maybe 2X a year. 5th = hmmm. maybe some supernatural 205 length 140 waisted super monster heli ski with an afterburner attachment. It would also have a keel. Or maybe instead of a pair of skis, I'd just get a parachute so I can ski-glide the eiger.
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