New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Mantra Volkl

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Can you guys share your experience with the new Mantra or anthing else that you recomend.
I am a northeastern skier but I travel to the west twice a year for a week each
I currently ski 175 s5 volkl.
I am looking for a fatter ski for pow but I still enjoy carving long sweepers on the groomed stuff as well as medium to short turns.
I would like to keep the s5 for the north east and get a new model that floats better in pow and where I am still able to snjoy both pow and groomers
I am 207 and I am a pretty accomplished skier.
I do not do mamy bumps due to bad knees
thanks in advance for your help
post #2 of 14
Try the search function. The mantra is one of the most talked about skis on this forum. There are probably a dozen reviews out there...
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 

Hellcat vs MANTRA

I Have Been Looking For A Comparison Review Between The Mantra And The Hellcat. Can Anyone Direct Me Or Provide Me With Some Insigth On The Comparison?
post #4 of 14
They are very different skis. The Nordica is very damp, has very solid edge grip, lot's of sidecut and really REALLY wants to carve mid radius turns (likes to finish turns across the hill). Very carve oriented. The Nordica Enforcer is more like the mantra.

The Mantra has Volkl's signature glassy feel, has good edge grip, has a very tapered shape which allows turn shaping. This is a better choice for bumps and tight trees. More freeride oriented. The '09 Volkl Grizzly is more like the Hellcat.
post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
thank you for the info. Reason asking is bcz I had the oportunity to ski the Mantra 177 on Breck 2 weeks ago I wanted a baseline for comparison.
Have you skied the Cat on Powder? Would you mind sharing your views on that?
thanks\again
post #6 of 14
The skier known as 'Samurai' posted an excellent review recently, he LOVED them.

I skied it a year ago and it carves really well i like the Nordica 'feel'... but I don't like the Hellcat. In my mind it is trying to do two very different tasks, hard snow carving and soft snow float, it is too wide to be a quick footed carver and it has too much sidecut to be a good soft snow ski... maybe great in slush?? It feels to me like it has a pre-determined turn radius that you need to fight against... or just go along for the ride. I posted a review last year, my feeling is "two great tastes... that do NOT taste great together". my opinion.
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the input. I ski regularly in the east for which i have the vokl s5 and the six stars. I go out west 2 to 3 times a year for a week out west utah/colorado of skiing each.
I enjoy carving the groomers but several times I have gotten deep powder for which the s5 is less than ideal.
I demoed the mantras (177)due to the reviews i read here. I think they were too short, so I was looking for a carver that would provide me "good enough" float on the powder hence the interest in the cat.
I liked the mantras but the "clank" anoyed me. I am an old style (close skis) skier and I am able to ski anything comfortably. Not much interest in moguls due to old knees.
A dedicated powder ski is not require since I travel with wife and kids and is too much stuff to carry. Long carving sweepers and fairly good snow float? Any such thing?
Any other models that you would suggest would be greatly apreciated.
Thanks for taking the time to reply
post #8 of 14
If you ski s5's and Six Stars the Hellcat's would be more of the same. Do a search on this website, TGR and Teletips for Movement Goliath Sluff, G3 Reverend, Volkl Bridge, Black Diamond Kilowatt, Apache Outlaw, and Head Mojo 94.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the insigth and advice, Just thougth that the Hell Cat would provide better float in pow due to the specs. THe six start s5 are really failry narrow skis.
post #10 of 14
The best skis I have found in that 80-90mm range for doing everything (long turns, crud at speed, moderate pow, carving, mid-radius turns) are the Fischer Watea 94, the 2009 Nordica Enforcer, the Elan 888, Head iM88, and the Dynastar Mythic Rider. I found the Mantra to be a good ski in longer turns and crud/pow, but not as responsive in shorter radius turns, whereas I can get the other skis listed here to ski bumps and shorter turns if I so choose. The Mantra in 177 felt "bigger" than the others in a similar length (the Watea is especially nimble: it is a super-versatile ski).
post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the insigth!
post #12 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgcatching View Post
The best skis I have found in that 80-90mm range for doing everything (long turns, crud at speed, moderate pow, carving, mid-radius turns) are the Fischer Watea 94, the 2009 Nordica Enforcer, the Elan 888, Head iM88, and the Dynastar Mythic Rider. I found the Mantra to be a good ski in longer turns and crud/pow, but not as responsive in shorter radius turns, whereas I can get the other skis listed here to ski bumps and shorter turns if I so choose. The Mantra in 177 felt "bigger" than the others in a similar length (the Watea is especially nimble: it is a super-versatile ski).
I agree with your review. I haven't tried all the skis you have but I skied both the Mantra 184 and iM88 186 on a trip to Whistler. The Head was far more versatile and a MUCH better carver, but less solid in deep stuff. The Volkl floated much better and made nicer turns in fresh snow but was substantially lacking in every other regard compared to the Heads. It was clunky, sluggish and lacked edge hold in comparison.

Dawg, how does the Head iM88 compare to the other skis you listed? Coming off race skis, I can't really imagine an all-mountain ski better than them.
post #13 of 14

Other options to Mantra

Mantras are great skis but take a look at this Teton Gravity review. It reflects my experience exactly.
http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111492
You can do better and cheaper too.
post #14 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by D(C) View Post
I agree with your review. I haven't tried all the skis you have but I skied both the Mantra 184 and iM88 186 on a trip to Whistler. The Head was far more versatile and a MUCH better carver, but less solid in deep stuff. The Volkl floated much better and made nicer turns in fresh snow but was substantially lacking in every other regard compared to the Heads. It was clunky, sluggish and lacked edge hold in comparison.

Dawg, how does the Head iM88 compare to the other skis you listed? Coming off race skis, I can't really imagine an all-mountain ski better than them.
The iM88 is really nice. I can ski it anywhere, and it has tons of stability, a very nice snowfeel, and is relatively forgiving. It is lacking a bit of energy, but that is my only complaint, and not really that valid of a complaint, as energetic skis and off-piste skiing aren't always compatible. Smooth, very stable, feels like a Head GS ski, only more forgiving, not as stiff, but with the same snowfeel. The Nordica is a little snappier though, but I really didn't get to take it into bumps and see how it handled those. The 888 is a lighter ski than the iM88, but maybe even more stable, with a slightly stiffer tip that skis perhaps more aggressive. It has even more of a GS feel while still a light touch in bumps, without the burliness of the Stockli XXXL, which I loved, but was lacking in versatility. The Stockli was best for skiing really, really fast on big open spaces, and poor in tight spots and bumps. The Watea is lighter, more forgiving than most, and will do slow-speed as well as faster turns well. But, it gets bounced around in heavy crud a bit more than the others, in my experience, due to the relatively soft flex and very light weight. In lighter crud and new snow, it is as stable as the others.

If you like skis with a race-ski GS feel to them, the iM88, 888, and XXXL come closest to what you are seeking, from this list.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ski Gear Discussion