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How does today's skis compare to skis purchased back in 1999?

post #1 of 22
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I was considering purchasing a new ski, but was wondering if it is worth the upgrade considering everything that I like is 6 or 7 hundred dollars or more.. Before I buy, I have a question.

Back in 1999 or 2000, I bought a brand new pair of Volkl Vertigo G30 skis. I was told that they were fairly good skis. I was a level 2 and it was my first set of skis so I dont know much about them.

How would a pair of skis purchased today compare with a ski purchased in 1999 or 2000 such as my Volkls?
post #2 of 22
The evolution has continued, but has slowed a bit. If price is a major concern, look for a deal on a 2006-7 ski. Unless you have a very specific request you should not have to pay 600-700 for a good ski.
post #3 of 22
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Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
The evolution has continued, but has slowed a bit. If price is a major concern, look for a deal on a 2006-7 ski. Unless you have a very specific request you should not have to pay 600-700 for a good ski.
So are you saying that there is not much difference as far as technology and shape between a ski bought today then back in 1999?
post #4 of 22
There is a huge difference from the 99 to today. I got an old pair of the G30's, or maybe they're G31's, same difference. They are very stiff throughout compared to the AC 30 of today. The tails and shovel are softer so they are a little more forgiving if you get tossed in the back seat, but yet they retain the torsional stiffness, so they hold a rock solid edge on any snow condition. They also have an integrated binding system which they never had years ago.
The thing for you to do is go demo some new skis and then hop back on your old G30's and decide for yourself. I'm sure your gonna find a huge difference.
post #5 of 22
Spend the money. There have been significant changes in the last 6-8 years.
post #6 of 22
I had the g31 then the g30 and they were both great skis. I liked the g31 better.

You won't believe the difference in performance between those skis and what's available today. If you like the g30 try the ac30 or ac3 to save money. I'd suggest a midfat 80ish underfoot, because that's what I like.

I moved to a 170 Nordica Top Fuel from a 177 (or 178) g30. Plenty of ski for me at 205, 5'10" pretty good skier. At a level 2 on the binding chart, maybe something a little softer.

You will like the change alot - money well spent.
post #7 of 22
I much prefer ski graphics today
post #8 of 22
I have a Vertigo Motion from 2002-2003, and an AC3 from 2006-2007. The Motion is the same as the G3, but with the system binding, and I think the G30 is similar, but newer than my Motions. The Motion is 70 mm underfoot, and the AC3 is 78, so they are real different skis. The AC3 is better out West, but it's too wide for me in the East. I went back to the Motion this year after I broke all my other skis, and they ski fine.
I don't think there has been much improvement in skis in the last 5 years. The early shape skis (1996-2000) varied quite a bit. Some were quite good, but others were awful. I think it took a while for designers to sort out what works and what doesn't. It's been easy to find a good, versatile ski for several years now, and there's no need to replace a ski before you wear it out.
I don't think skis will improve much in the near future either. The market is shrinking, so there's just not enough money in it to develop the next big breakthrough. For the next several years marketing will be based in graphics and gimmicks, not performance advances.

BK
post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel View Post
I much prefer ski graphics today
Exactly my point.

BK
post #10 of 22
Reps and gear junkies say "just gotta have the newest technology or you'll get left behind"

Ski bums and folks that have less disposable cash say "if it ain't broke don't fix it"
post #11 of 22
As someone above mentioned, it's best to demo some new skis and decide for yourself.

I'm a see it to believe it sort of guy (in this case, ski it to believe it!) so I wouldn't be happy shelling out 4,5,600 bucks without first trying for the ski and knowing how much of a difference there was b/w the old and new.

My $.02
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by Bode Klammer View Post
I don't think there has been much improvement in skis in the last 5 years.
I don't think skis will improve much in the near future either.
They have improved in the last 5 yrs, IMHO.

And I have heard that before about future improvements. I don't have a crystal ball but I think skis will get better.
post #13 of 22
Depending on the brand and type of ski, I dont think there has been too much change.

If your shopping for a different style of ski, say from a high speed carver which was all the rage back then, to a midfat or fatty of today's hotness, then thats a whole different story.
post #14 of 22
98-99 was the last few years of straight skis, and the middle of the "shape" ski revolution. Since that time, straight skis have pretty much gone the way of the do-do bird, and shape skis have matured significantly (and gotten away from the original themes of the "shape" craze, keeping only the best traits and ideas). Just in the last 5-6 years alone, there have been big breakthroughs in materials and construction. No matter how you look at it, a 2007-2009 ski is going to be a lot more advanced than a 1999 ski. For the skier, that generally means the newer ski offers better performance, more forgiveness, and a better value.

Look for deals -- there have been some excellent 07-08 skis on closeout recently for under $400, some with system bindings.
post #15 of 22
I recently replaced my 1997 skis with some from 2005 and I prefer the older ones. My new skis are a little longer, straighter, wider, than my old ones. I think design is more important than age and I agree with Bode Klammer that some skis from the last century are capable of providing the same quality of experience as newer designs.
post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by BKSinAZ View Post
I was considering purchasing a new ski, but was wondering if it is worth the upgrade considering everything that I like is 6 or 7 hundred dollars or more.. Before I buy, I have a question.

Back in 1999 or 2000, I bought a brand new pair of Volkl Vertigo G30 skis. I was told that they were fairly good skis. I was a level 2 and it was my first set of skis so I dont know much about them.

How would a pair of skis purchased today compare with a ski purchased in 1999 or 2000 such as my Volkls?
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
Depending on the brand and type of ski, I dont think there has been too much change.

If your shopping for a different style of ski, say from a high speed carver which was all the rage back then, to a midfat or fatty of today's hotness, then thats a whole different story.
Get some powder skis and use your Volkls when there is no powder.
post #17 of 22
Anyone wanna buy a set of G31 Vertigo's cheap?? Matter of fact I got several pairs of old skis I will sell cheap to those who don't think there's a difference.
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by BKSinAZ View Post
How would a pair of skis purchased today compare with a ski purchased in 1999 or 2000 such as my Volkls?
I'm not sure if you're asking an academic question, a practical question, or both. For a practical question, the second part of the comparison should really be "my Volkls," rather than "a ski purchased in 1999 or 2000" ... which, of course, depends on what "ski purchased in 1999 or 2000."

And, of course, the first part depends heavily on what "skis purchased today."

In general, there's more different and useful varieties available today. Fatter and shaplier, in particular.
post #19 of 22
G30/G31 was a midfat shape ski:. And they were pretty much identical. i had both. the G31 had a slightly squareer tail.

There has been a big difference in skis. both in shape and construction material.

The biggest change I think, is the ability to make a wider ski very stiff torsionally and softer longitudinally.

The G30 : in 99-00 Season: Length 188, Dimensions 105-69-92, Radius 24M. It also had vibration dampening

In 00-01 the G31 came out. Identical dimensions slightly different Graphics slightly squarer tail!


You guys are way off the mark!
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
Depending on the brand and type of ski, I dont think there has been too much change.

If your shopping for a different style of ski, say from a high speed carver which was all the rage back then, to a midfat or fatty of today's hotness, then thats a whole different story.
Wow Richie, come on dude:
post #21 of 22
Im saying is that yes there are some older skis that are grossly outdated, but even back then you could find a carver with shape that would be comparable to today's skis...no? No question that newer is better, but I dont think he will be like 'wow' if he already has a modern shaped ski.
post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
Im saying is that yes there are some older skis that are grossly outdated, but even back then you could find a carver with shape that would be comparable to today's skis...no? No question that newer is better, but I dont think he will be like 'wow' if he already has a modern shaped ski.
I had the opportunity to ski on a buddies G31 ones within the last two years. Trust me even though it has a 69mm and has some shape, it skied like a plank adn a 24M turn radius is no holiday in an all ountain ski at 188cm.

Skis have come light years!

But the G30/31 Vertigo is no straight ski by any stretch of the imagination!
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